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Jedi have children?


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vandurlast
04.05.2012 , 07:15 PM | #1
During Act 1 of the Consular story it comes up that a certain Padawan is the daughter of a certain Master. No one really seems to comment much on it but isnt it unusual that a Jedi would have a child at all? I know from early Jedi missions that love/romance is forbidden to them so how do you end up with Jedi who have kids?
Is there some kind of Force Sensitive Master Race breeding program??

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Maaruin
04.05.2012 , 07:21 PM | #2
Jedi can get the permission to get married. Their children are raised by the Order. Of course you have to ask first and probably already have graduated. So the padawans have no permission, while the master might have got the permission some thime ago.
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Sulvan
04.05.2012 , 07:22 PM | #3
Yeah jedi are allowed to marry but it is allowed for a select group of jedi who the order deems worthy and who wont get to emotionally attached

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04.05.2012 , 07:29 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Maaruin View Post
Their children are raised by the Order.
Quote: Originally Posted by Sulvan View Post
Yeah jedi are allowed to marry but it is allowed for a select group of jedi who the order deems worthy and who wont get to emotionally attached
....and they say the Sith are the evil ones.

That's just downright cruel.

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Maaruin
04.05.2012 , 07:35 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
....and they say the Sith are the evil ones.

That's just downright cruel.
Well, I think it is formulated as "they can attach" and "they have to stay detached". Sound like: It is ok to be a little attached, but not to much. I think it is not more cruel then some marriage tradition here on earth.

(I would rather have a Jedi marriage like this then something like Lord Gratham.

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Timo
04.05.2012 , 07:54 PM | #6
After I ****** her, not because shes hot, and believe me shes not, but to get Vette upset.

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BradTheImpaler
04.05.2012 , 08:07 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Sulvan View Post
Yeah jedi are allowed to marry but it is allowed for a select group of jedi who the order deems worthy and who wont get to emotionally attached
Also sometimes for rarer species. For instance Ki-Adi Mundi was allowed to have multiple wives due to the low population of Cereans in the galaxy, but yes on pretty much that same condition.
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ScarletBlaze
04.05.2012 , 08:14 PM | #8
Up to the Great Sith War, some Jedi did practice marriage and were known to have families of their own. There were even cases of families consisting entirely of Jedi, such as that of Andur Sunrider. The children of Jedi families were often gifted in the Force. Even later in the Order, such families existed—though the continuation of the line was through those family members who did not become Jedi. Famous Jedi families of the late Republic included the Koon family and the Diath family.

However, it appears that some Jedi might have been granted the right to marry, not as a special case, but as a norm. Several Corellian Jedi (Keiran Halcyon during the Old Republic, and Corran Horn in the time of the New Republic) were allowed to marry and raise children without repercussion. Whether this was due to an agreement between the Jedi and the planetary government—Corellia is known for its family-centric culture—or purely personal choices made against the Jedi Code is not known, except in the case of Nejaa Halcyon, who married his wife secretly without the approval of the Council. Corellian Jedi often had many other noticeable differences from the traditional Jedi ways, such as in clothing and a reluctance to take on missions outside of their home system.

By the time of the New Jedi Order, the practice of forbidding or discouraging marriages had been discarded, as many of the Order's members had spouses and children, including the Order's Grand Master himself, whose wife was another Jedi Master


To add another comment:

Satela Shan (grandmaster of the Order) has a son, Theron Shan, and furthermore she is the descendant of Bastila and Revan.
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Jandi
04.05.2012 , 08:30 PM | #9
The order wouldn't throw you out for that. It's advised against and perhaps frowned upon, but the Jedi aren't drones. If you romance the Lt as a consular, it's explained quite profoundly. The Lt gets a call from a Jedi master and gets asked a series of questions regarding the affair and if the relationship isn't destructive and both realize what a Jedi is trained for and that the non-jedi understands what they are getting themselves into. If both are level-headed about it and don't try to hide or justify or deny it, the order is fine with it.
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Captain_Zone
04.05.2012 , 08:50 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
Up to the Great Sith War, some Jedi did practice marriage and were known to have families of their own. There were even cases of families consisting entirely of Jedi, such as that of Andur Sunrider. The children of Jedi families were often gifted in the Force. Even later in the Order, such families existed—though the continuation of the line was through those family members who did not become Jedi. Famous Jedi families of the late Republic included the Koon family and the Diath family.

However, it appears that some Jedi might have been granted the right to marry, not as a special case, but as a norm. Several Corellian Jedi (Keiran Halcyon during the Old Republic, and Corran Horn in the time of the New Republic) were allowed to marry and raise children without repercussion. Whether this was due to an agreement between the Jedi and the planetary government—Corellia is known for its family-centric culture—or purely personal choices made against the Jedi Code is not known, except in the case of Nejaa Halcyon, who married his wife secretly without the approval of the Council. Corellian Jedi often had many other noticeable differences from the traditional Jedi ways, such as in clothing and a reluctance to take on missions outside of their home system.

By the time of the New Jedi Order, the practice of forbidding or discouraging marriages had been discarded, as many of the Order's members had spouses and children, including the Order's Grand Master himself, whose wife was another Jedi Master


To add another comment:

Satela Shan (grandmaster of the Order) has a son, Theron Shan, and furthermore she is the descendant of Bastila and Revan.
Corran Horn was allowed to get married and have a family as were ALL the Jedi in the New Jedi Order under Luke Skywalker. He saw no reason to be a "love nazi", for lack of a better word like previous Jedi Councils.

Plo Koon was given special dispensation by the Prequel Council because of his race's low birth rate. He did not care for them as a husband or father, though. He was ordered by the Council not to form any attachments.

During the TOR era, the Council isn't quite as draconian about it as they are in the prequels, but it's still pretty bad. You find out during the Kira romance arc just how stifling they can be.

1. Both Jedi have to be born into the Order, or raised from a very early age by the Order. Even then, there is no guarantee that they would be able to marry. They have to prove to the Council that they have can handle it and not form an attachment. After the wedding night, any further contact between then is regulated by the Council.

2. If a child is born to the couple, he or she is taken immediately from the parents and raised by the Order.

3. If the parents wish to see the child, they must obtain permission from the Council to do so.

4. The Council does routine checks on the couple to make sure they do not form attachments.

5. If the Council deems that any attachments have formed between the Couple, they have a choice. Have the marriage annulled and be banned from seeing each other ever again, or have their connection to the Force severed and be kicked out of the Order.

Like Elf said: "And they say the Sith are the evil ones." Sums it up perfectly, right there.
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