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Sith Spy will be the next announced class. Evidence inside!
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Tal-N
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Sith Spy will be the next announced class. Evidence inside! | 06.14.2009 , 07:20 AM
While I won't post the entire topic here because these forums don't allow screenshots I will provide the link and a brief summery to peak your interest.

Please click this link to see the actual topic on the TheOldRepublic-Online.com forum.

Put simply. Everyone is wondering who that Twi'Lek was in the cinematic video. The general concensus is that she is a Smuggler but people cannot seem to reconcile that fact with the news that the Smuggler is a republic class. There has been interviews with Bioware which said that the video was made with the intention to include a large amount of in-game facts for players to get an idea what the game is about. So clearly we see some class representation here as well as some suggestion of how the game plays out. The Twi'lek, for example, is clearly seen running for cover and using ambush tactics like we have seen with the Smuggler.

But try to recall that what we're seeing in TOR is the mirroring of classes between the Republic and Sith factions. Some people suspected that the Smuggler was a Sith class or the counter-part to the Bounty Hunter. However we can clearly see that the Trooper and the Bounty Hunter are counter parts in how they function. The Sith and Jedi are clearly counter-parts and that means the new Smuggler class also has a Sith counterpart. So just because this Twi'lek in the video uses cover like a Smuggler does not mean she is a Smuggler. She is actually the counter-part for the Sith faction.

She is a Sith Spy. Click the link, there is far more evidence to support this conclusion.
 
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MorkaisChosen
Joined: Jun 2009
06.14.2009 , 07:28 AM
Looks pretty convincing, and I think that'd work- the Soy will probably be a bit less "flashy" than the Smuggler, playing more of a waiting game rather than showing off quite so much.
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MyNameDidntFit
Joined: Jun 2009
06.14.2009 , 07:28 AM
It does seem likely that this screenshot does indeed depict a Sith spy/infiltrator class.

I'm mostly curious as to what it is doing out in the media section all on its lonesome...
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Tal-N
Joined: Dec 2008
06.14.2009 , 07:42 AM
Well here is the thing. Whenever an MMO is made the first and most important parts need to be made first. Which for any game is always the character which the player controls. They need that done first because it is the point of reference for the rest of the game. The size of the player, how fast they move, their physical dimensions are needed to design weapons and armor. Just about everything has to revolve around the player character.

So when you look at the very first screenshots you will notice that almost all of them were actually player classes. Now obviously the Jedi and the Sith are popular topics for the screenies and we know they are a class. But you say that the Spy was sitting out by its lonesome, but the Trooper was there too all along. In fact the Trooper among some of the launch screenshots. You also have the Bounty Hunter in there as well. And we know this is a bounty hunter because this exact same character appeared in the launch video using his wrist flamer. Also in the bounty hunter announcement video we saw this armor on the Bounty Hunter in one of the scenes.

Later on we see the Bounty Hunter again in this arabian style armor which appeared as concept art in the BH video announcement. And on the same page we have the Sith Spy.

But what is REALLY interesting, if you follow this train of thought. Among all of these known class screenshots were the one of the Sith Assassin Droid. And also this image of a T3 droid. With the title for the image saying :

"Droids sometimes play a larger role in the outcome of events than one might think."

So yeah. In my opinon, the developers have actually shown us all of the classes in TOR already. And did so from launch. But they haven't officially announced them yet, so when we all look back I think some people are going to be doing some major face palming because the information was there all along. It's kind of like the Revan twist in KoTOR you might say.
 
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keroko
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06.14.2009 , 07:44 AM
A very good analysis and excellent convincing arguments backing it up. We did have the same thing happen in the timeline with the smuggler class after all.

Of course, this raises several questions which will be fun to speculate on. For example, the spy -or whatever it is going to be called- seems to utilize cover. Now I find it hard to believe that in the face of the tastefully done difference between the trooper and the bounty hunter, the spy is going to be a carbon copy of the smuggler with a different paint job. So how will the spy utilize cover, but still remain a unique class?

Perhaps the spy will not gain the advantages a smuggler does? Perhaps they give the spy a 'stealth' feature while she is in cover? I could imagine that while for the smuggler cover is used after combat has started, the spy would utilize cover before combat has started, to lay ambushes that will give her an edge when combat begins.
 
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06.14.2009 , 07:48 AM
That makes sense, Keroko- I see the Spy as a slower, more strategic class than the SMuggler, taking time to set up the bst shot possible.
My continuing mission: to geek out where no-one has geeked out before.

And irritate people with references to the wrong much-loved sci-fi with impressively expendable security forces. Mustn't forget that.
 
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Taboo
Joined: May 2009
06.14.2009 , 07:56 AM
You've actually given evidence and thought about this, unlike most people when they speculate about classes. I never really looked at that Twi'lek and that picture before, but now I can see the costumes are clearly the same, so it could possibly mean a Spy is infact the 'counter-part' to the Smuggler. Then again it could also just mean she's a companion, guess we'll never know until the 2nd Sith class is revealed.
 
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Taleroth
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06.14.2009 , 08:02 AM
The one problem he doesn't seem to address is how every class is supposed to be iconic. Recognized by people who've only watched the movies, just on appearance. An Imperial Infiltrator or Spy would not be such.
It's a schooner.
 
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keroko
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06.14.2009 , 08:10 AM
Perhaps we should think of this less as a character iconic class, but more an event iconic class. In this case, rather than "character X experience" this would be the "episode IV experience." After all, we all remember our heroes infiltrating the Death Star to disable the tractor beams and rescue the princess.
 
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Taleroth
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06.14.2009 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by keroko
Perhaps we should think of this less as a character iconic class, but more an event iconic class. In this case, rather than "character X experience" this would be the "episode IV experience." After all, we all remember our heroes infiltrating the Death Star to disable the tractor beams and rescue the princess.
That is so shaky that I fear for earthquakes on this forum.
It's a schooner.
 

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