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Vlaxitov
04.03.2012 , 10:28 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Darnu View Post
No it doesn't. It turns them into those people crying on the forums about getting repeatedly kicked from groups and/or reported.
Then those game dev's put cooldowns on the kick ability thus allowing D-bags and keyturning bads to force their way in.

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Skirata_Kal
04.03.2012 , 10:29 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Darnu View Post
No it doesn't. It turns them into those people crying on the forums about getting repeatedly kicked from groups and/or reported.
+1 thumbs up
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navarh
04.03.2012 , 10:30 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
Because SWTOR has a great and wonderful community now? LMAO!
never saw it (outside of guild) but from what ppl say here that mythical community must be great

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Skirata_Kal
04.03.2012 , 10:31 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
Then those game dev's put cooldowns on the kick ability thus allowing D-bags and keyturning bads to force their way in.
So hopefully Bioware can take that as a lesson learned. Most of the unfair kicks in WoW's LFD groups were due to disputes originating from a dps meter...which we don't have at present (whether it should or not is a discussion for a different thread).
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Skirata_Kal
04.03.2012 , 10:33 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by navarh View Post
never saw it (outside of guild) but from what ppl say here that mythical communitн must be great
Have to confess the two Beta weekends I participated in were good.
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Darnu
04.03.2012 , 10:33 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
Then those game dev's put cooldowns on the kick ability thus allowing D-bags and keyturning bads to force their way in.
And may Bioware never do that. Seriously, if you got kicked for no reason at all and it was abuse, did you really want to run with them in the first place? Especially considering it took a majority vote to kick you?

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WrentheFaceless
04.03.2012 , 10:35 AM | #67
People that think LFR and LFD systems kill communities have no idea what they're talking about.

Sitting in general spamming "LFG" isnt being a community. The only thing that really kill communities is itself. The internet gaming community in general is going down the gutter, and its not the dev's of these games' fault, its ours.

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DarthTHC
04.03.2012 , 10:35 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
Single server dungeon finder will be in 1.3.

I agree totally with 1 and 2, and that process of looking for a group should be automated.

For 3 however, if you have CROSS SERVER dungeon finder, vote kicking from groups will happen more frequently, due to no consequences. All manner of disruptive behavior will happen because they are from another server and they don't suffer any consequences.
Sorry, have to shred your theory on #3 here.

In today's game, the group leader has all the power. The group leader can kick for any reason (doesn't have to give one) at any time, just by clicking the mouse a couple times.

In my time playing SWTOR, this has happened to me, most frequently right at the end of the dungeon, before the final event that gives the quest complete. Yah. Thanks for wasting my 45 minutes to 2 hours there guy.

Second point... I managed to find 3 groups by spamming general chat this weekend.

One of the groups was amazingly flawless.

One of the groups had a group leader (remember, I can't do anything about the group leader as a member) who rolled NEED on everything. Serious God complex. I warned him once I saw the pattern then put him on ignore and dropped group next time he did it. You say X-LFD causes this? Obviously it doesn't because we don't have X-LFD now.

One of the groups seemed like complete MMO noobs. Couldn't figure out crowd control - how to use it or how not to break it. Couldn't figure out buffing. Couldn't figure out how to heal outside of combat. Couldn't figure out they shouldn't face-pull as DPS, that is when the Tank wasn't charging ahead without checking anyone's health or focus. Completely unteachable, and I tried.

So of the several hours I spent spamming, 2/3 of my groups were trash.

Of the thousands of X-LFD runs I did in WoW, less than 5% of my runs even came close to that level of trash, and at least I could do something about some of them, namely vote-kick.

But keep saying that X-LFD is the devil and destroys communities and whatever else you want to say. The simple reality is that this bad behavior happens in the game today without X-LFD and, in fact, as a percentage of groups the bads are far more prevalent now, without the partial anonymity it provides.

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Skirata_Kal
04.03.2012 , 10:38 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Sorry, have to shred your theory on #3 here.

In today's game, the group leader has all the power. The group leader can kick for any reason (doesn't have to give one) at any time, just by clicking the mouse a couple times.

In my time playing SWTOR, this has happened to me, most frequently right at the end of the dungeon, before the final event that gives the quest complete. Yah. Thanks for wasting my 45 minutes to 2 hours there guy.

Second point... I managed to find 3 groups by spamming general chat this weekend.

One of the groups was amazingly flawless.

One of the groups had a group leader (remember, I can't do anything about the group leader as a member) who rolled NEED on everything. Serious God complex. I warned him once I saw the pattern then put him on ignore and dropped group next time he did it. You say X-LFD causes this? Obviously it doesn't because we don't have X-LFD now.

One of the groups seemed like complete MMO noobs. Couldn't figure out crowd control - how to use it or how not to break it. Couldn't figure out buffing. Couldn't figure out how to heal outside of combat. Couldn't figure out they shouldn't face-pull as DPS, that is when the Tank wasn't charging ahead without checking anyone's health or focus. Completely unteachable, and I tried.

So of the several hours I spent spamming, 2/3 of my groups were trash.

Of the thousands of X-LFD runs I did in WoW, less than 5% of my runs even came close to that level of trash, and at least I could do something about some of them, namely vote-kick.

But keep saying that X-LFD is the devil and destroys communities and whatever else you want to say. The simple reality is that this bad behavior happens in the game today without X-LFD and, in fact, as a percentage of groups the bads are far more prevalent now, without the partial anonymity it provides.
Very Well said! QFT!
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Touchbass
04.03.2012 , 10:42 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
Very Well said! QFT!
Yeah, it's important to shed light on the truth of the situation. All these erronous reports of the "pitfalls" of X-LFD in the long run only hamper the community. Does it have some problems associated with it, of course BUT the pro's outweigh the cons
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!