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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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genealogymaster
04.11.2012 , 09:20 AM | #621
I enjoyed this game when I started playing in December and now have given up because at this time there is no hope of getting flashpoints and heroic missions done on my server. I've repeatedly asked for help from Bioware to no avail, they say wait for 1.2 however I don't think patch 1.2 will do much of anything to change the way things are. When you have a server and there may only be 6 people on a planet in peak times the LFG tool on just that server won't work not enough people.

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Valkirus
04.11.2012 , 09:39 AM | #622
Quote: Originally Posted by genealogymaster View Post
I enjoyed this game when I started playing in December and now have given up because at this time there is no hope of getting flashpoints and heroic missions done on my server. I've repeatedly asked for help from Bioware to no avail, they say wait for 1.2 however I don't think patch 1.2 will do much of anything to change the way things are. When you have a server and there may only be 6 people on a planet in peak times the LFG tool on just that server won't work not enough people.
1.2 will not help you at all in finding groups for Flashpoints. And when they do add a same server only LFG....and you happen to be on a low pop server...it will not help you then ether. Time proves all things and my sub runs out this July, so that is how long BioWare has to show me they can provide the right tools for me to do end game content. A same server LFG tool will not cut it on my server. For PVE....they can do whatever they want for PVP, I am not into that.
Trust is something which is earned.

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DigitalPrime
04.11.2012 , 10:02 AM | #623
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post

I honestly don't understand how people can be so against improving the game.
This is just an opinioin though, Not all players feel this improves the game. Even the devs were dead against it. We all are different. Some want community, some want social and some want ROOOAR badge/ratio. We all are different and x-server doesnt fit in with all gaming styles.

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Valkirus
04.11.2012 , 10:12 AM | #624
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
This is just an opinioin though, Not all players feel this improves the game. Even the devs were dead against it. We all are different. Some want community, some want social and some want ROOOAR badge/ratio. We all are different and x-server doesnt fit in with all gaming styles.
That is true. The big difference is..those of us who want a cross server LFG for PVE are not trying to force our opinion on those who donot want to use it. Now...sub numbers which BioWare is looking at I am sure..is not a opinion..but facts. And no matter how the developers may personally feel about a cross server LFG tool for PVE, they should be more concerned about keeping most subs and providing thier paying customers the tools they need to experence the game as it should be. Don'nt you think?
Trust is something which is earned.

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Skirata_Kal
04.11.2012 , 10:12 AM | #625
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
We all are different and x-server doesnt fit in with all gaming styles.
Neither does spamming LFG in Fleet General and getting crickets in return.
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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genealogymaster
04.11.2012 , 10:14 AM | #626
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
That is true. The big difference is..those of us who want a cross server LFG for PVE are not trying to force our opinion on those who donot want to use it. Now...sub numbers which BioWare is looking at I am sure..is not a opinion..but facts. And no matter how the developers may personally feel about a cross server LFG tool for PVE, they should be more concerned about keeping most subs and providing thier paying customers the tools they need to experence the game as it should be. Don'nt you think?
I think you're correct but will Bioware pay attention is the critical question.

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Skirata_Kal
04.11.2012 , 10:24 AM | #627
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
I'm seriously doubting it'll be ingame in 2 months sadly. All they've said is they're working on one and they're hoping to put it into patch 1.3, which could be anytime in the next 2 or 4 or 6 months time. Plus there's no guarantee it'll be ready for patch 1.3!
I'm going to give them until I finish all the class stories (at current rate 6 months lol). After that, there will truly be nothing left to do (and no, spamming general or waiting forever for a same server tool to pop if ever is not something to do)
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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Skirata_Kal
04.11.2012 , 10:28 AM | #628
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
I mean I ran a Flashpoint the other day with a tank who was needing on everything, even gear that was no good to him. Couldn't kick him either as he was the group leader.

The current system is bad. We are definitely up for a compromise so long as it satisfies the majority of people. And currently, I'm willing to bet money that the majority of people don't care about 'community' or anything like that, they just want to experience the game they're paying for.
Great example! I also liked your community comment. Like I keep asking, "What community?" lol
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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Esproc
04.11.2012 , 10:29 AM | #629
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Uh, no... we don't have same server lfg, so it can't be currently broken, and therefore it's not possible that it's being repaired.
Just because you refuse to use the current LFG tool does not mean that it is not there. It is there, and does have the features to show other people looking for the same runs. Lack of knowledge as to how it works, sorry that it's not a one button wonder, does not mean that the feature does not exist, it does.

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same server lfg doesn't help the servers that have low population; it doesn't help the servers that have a high population when someone plays off hours; it doesn't help the servers that have a high population for low-mid level flashpoints.
We have mentioned mergers, but you do not want that, you want XSLFG and "NO Mergers, we want XSLFG!". So to me having been told that by your pro group people, it's clear you don't care about anything but your precious fail mechanic.

[QUOTE]That why people were posting multi-hour queues in RIFT when they added single server lfg; that's why I had a multi hour wait when we had a tank, healer, support and 1 dps and just needed a 2nd dps (and could have taken any roll, as the tank, healer and support were also queued as dps). That's why there was a guy who posted a 12 or 16 hour screenshot from gnarlwood (the 5th most populated server at the time) when trying to do a mid 20s dungeon[?QUOTE]

Circumspect. Did you really look? Were people unwilling to group with YOU? Rift is a different game as well, and this is not any other game, but SWTOR. 12 - 16 hours LFG is a lot of time to stay awake and play a game noon-stop, even if it is "the 5th most populated server at the time", not any more? Server Mergers?

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If you don't like using it, then don't use it....
If people do not want to use it, and they don't, why should they not be "allowed the same content" as other people? This just shows you own greed for your own purposes. You are showing that you care for none of the people who play without a guild, either solo or with a few friends, and don't want to "experience" the fail XSLFG people and attitudes.

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If you don't like to go fishing, then don't go fishing. Don't rail at people that like fishing and call them short sighted, petty, greedy, and selfish just because they say: "if you don't like to go fishing, just don't go fishing."
At present there is no such ability to "go fishing". So a "red herring to chase. That ability is in that other game that you yourself have claimed you want this one to become, but with lightsabers.

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If you don't like to watch football, then don't watch football. Don't rail at people that like watching football and call them short sighted, petty, greedy, and selfish just because they say: "if you don't like to watch football, just don't watch football."
Red Herring. There is always HUTTBALL, but no football. Go watch t.v.

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If you don't like to play a bounty hunter in SW:TOR, then don't play a bounty hunter in SW:TOR. Don't rail at people that like to play a bounty hunter in SW:TOR and call them short sighted, petty, greedy, and selfish just because they say: "if you don't like to play a bounty hunter in SW:TOR, just don't watch play a bounty hunter in SW:TOR."
Red Herring. You are still missing the point, but to answer, if I don't like and don't play a BH, there is always a Trooper , Or other classes to choose from.

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If you don't like to group cross server, then don't group cross server. Don't rail at people that like grouping cross server and call them short sighted, petty, greedy, and selfish just because they say: "if you don't like to group cross server, just don't group cross server."
Yes I do not like it, finally at least on point. But WHAT ARE YOU, YOU, GOING TO DO TO THOSE THAT DO NOT USE IT, BUT STILL WANT TO "EXPERIENCE THE SAME CONTENT" THAT YOU CLAIM IS THE REASON THAT YOU "NEED" XSLFG. You are ignoring a great many of the player base that should not be FORCED to your whims to do so.

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You're not making any sense here.
Perhaps it's just that you are over looking the point with short sighted desires that include no one, but yourself.

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We're not saying "no you're example X is wrong because we want cross server" ... people say "no you're example X is wrong because of Y and Z"
What Y and Z? Wondering what you are willing to do for other people? Wondering if you are so biased in you wants to leave everyone else out of the loop so long as you get what you want?

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We have said why we want it; we've asked for you to give a valid reason for us to not get it. You haven't offered one. You've blamed cross server for things that it doesn't cause. You've attributed things to single server that simply aren't true. You've yet to show anything negative that is actually caused by adding cross server lfg, you just assert that it's true because you believe it to be true and demand that we take your belief as evidence.
I have given reasons why, and valid ones, including article clippings from game magazines reviewing Blizzard Developers who said the "Cross Server Looking for Group" was a mistake and failed. You and your Pro XSLFG HAD IT REMOVED in fashion of hiding your heads when it was shown and laid bare the Fail System that it was TRUTH by a DEV for it.

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Right now several people have shown benefits (some of them mathematically)
No they haven't, only hyperbole

[QUOTE]You have yet to show that any of your concerns are real.[/QUOYE]

WRONG. REPEAT. Look above.

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Benefits that have been demonstrated outweigh concerns that have not been demonstrated.
WRONG. REPEAT. Look above.

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Tell them not to use it.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR THEM!!!!! I asked you that, no answer except the response of Only for Me and mine.

[QUOTE]They do get the exact same content as what I get, and don't have to use the cross server lfg system./QUOTE]

Did you really read what I posted? Or just glance and assume a knowledge based on what you thought you saw?

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Sure, ask for whatever you want, just don't demand that they not add things that other people want.
No, you did not read what I posted, I see that with this fallacy of understanding. I wrote that if you get your XSLFG, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT USE IT, to allow them "the same content" that you claim you will only be able to get with the fail system you desire.

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I'm willing to let you demonstrate that any of your concerns are real, and I'm willing to let you ask bioware for whatever you want them to add (and not something you want them to refrain from adding)
You and your Pro Me XSLFG have NEVER given me, or any other anti poster, a chance at anything. We disagree with you, we are thereby automatically wrong in your eyes and deserve to be ridiculed and attacked, and I have, AS STATED ABOVE, Given You And Your Pro Group Replies with More Proof than you have ever shown on OUR stance, that You have had removed from the posts as the truth hurt.
In this Age of Information, Ignorance is a Choice!

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chaosdefined
04.11.2012 , 10:29 AM | #630
Quote: Originally Posted by DigitalPrime View Post
This is just an opinioin though, Not all players feel this improves the game. Even the devs were dead against it. We all are different. Some want community, some want social and some want ROOOAR badge/ratio. We all are different and x-server doesnt fit in with all gaming styles.
The dev's were against it because some of the players in Beta said "no don't put in an LFD, that ruins communities.". They weren't against it for any personal opinions themselves. I'm really getting the impression the dev's haven't actually played other MMO's.

At least there are people like you who are now coming round to a compromise of ideas, rather than those who are completely dead set against any form of it. Those are the ones I can't understand.