No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

There's no reason for people to stay in the group after LFD finds a group

If you play the X-LFD properly you'll always have a kick vote up for when you need it.

OMG yes pls.. PLEASE add a multi server LFG tool..

I have 6 level 50s on The razor and with such low population im only able to get a group for HMs maybe once per week during prime time.

50 on fleet, and 3-4 people per planet is insanly low population.

PLEASE add this ASAP!

Could we avoid irrelevant and ad hominem attacks like this please? It adds nothing to the discussion and detracts from the very real and very valid points being made.


So far, from what I can gather from the discussion, the argument seems to be breakign down like this:

Anti Cross-Server side is against cross-server LFG for two basic reasons:
1. Being grouped with people from other servers will not allow server-side peer pressure to punish wrongdoers.
2. Being grouped with people from other servers will not allow the formation of long-lasting friendships and links with the people they get grouped with.

Pro Cross-server is for cross-server LFG for two basic reason:
1. The many low population servers do not currently have enough people for everyone to get in a group, especially at non-prime times.
2. Implementing a broken system that you know won't fix the problem is just a waste of time.

Most of the debate seems to revolve around either supporting or refuting one of these four basic arguments.

Anyone from either camp have any extra arguments to add to these? If not, maybe we can discuss each of these in depth and try to find either find a solution that address everyone's concerns, or at least argue coherently and logically.

Anyone from either camp have any extra arguments to add to these?

I have one: Why be against the introduction of a tool no one has to use?

The answer, of course, is because you bloody well know the vast majority will use it.

That's what this always boils down to: control. A pathetic attempt to control what other people do by not allowing them the option of using a tool you don't like.

No one has to use a cross server LFG. You're free to form groups however you like. In fact in games that have a cross server LFG that I've played (Rift and WoW) it was still common to have full guild runs or to just use the LFG to fill in a slot or two.

Cross server LFG or no, you're free to form groups any way you bloody well like. Of course if either Rift or WoW are at all indicative, the vast majority will simple queue, not giving a rat's arse who or what server anyone is from that they group with. They'll join, do the instance, maybe say 'GG', and drop group.

They do that because they want to, not because anyone forces them to. But to a certain very vocal part of the forum warrior population, that's simply not acceptable. Everyone should be doing things their way, for the good of the mythical community. They know bloody well that, given the option, most of the server population would, by their actions, tell them to take their 'community' and place it where the sun doesn't shine, the possibility of people being able to do that terrifies them.

They fear the tool because, and only because, they know most people would use it.

And that simply isn't acceptable to them.

They should not have the right to tell the majority that they can't have a tool they know the majority would use.

For reasons I can't fathom, Bioware feels beholden to this stupidity, but I firmly believe that in the end they will either give the majority the tools they want, or they will watch this game fall further into unrecoverable MMO obscurity.

Again, even with a cross-server LFG, you can still do this. You can still run with tanks you know from your server and just pug in other people from other servers. And if there isn't any tank on your server willing to queue with you, then you wouldn't have a group at all anyway. Expanding the list of players you can group with does not decrease your options, it increases them.

Really? And how would said person know who's a good tank from their server if they never ran with them before? You're going under the assumption that a Tank friend was already made. What about people who haven't made that contact yet? New players, players who've been lvling solo mostly, even the less social people. How will they group with that friend tank to queue in LFG if they don't got one? How are they going to find one to queue with after your cross server LFG is implemented if they never get to run with one only with tanks from other servers?