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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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ConradLionhart
04.05.2012 , 02:57 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
Right so because you can get groups you don't care about anyone else.

1. People can get groups for whatever reason so they don't care

2. People don't run FPs or OPs so they don't care.

LFD would not impact you, please move along.

My theory is pretty solid.
I haven't even done level 50 FPs yet. I'm currently doing dailies on Belsavis and Ilum because I am a responsible tank and I want to make sure I am geared enough to tackle flashpoints. I don't want to cause unnecessary wipes due to my lack of gear, and I want to make sure I can carry my weight.

The fact that I rolled a tank, is enough proof that I DO care. I care about the tank shortage, and I want to alleviate it and help the community.

You don't even know me, stop making assumptions about other people's character in order to win an argument. You cannot say we should have cross-server dungeon finder because some random dude named ConradLionhart doesn't care. What kind of argument is that? We should do whatever you want because people who argue against you CLEARLY don't care about the game?

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Reevax
04.05.2012 , 02:59 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
I haven't even done level 50 FPs yet. I'm currently doing dailies on Belsavis and Ilum because I am a responsible tank and I want to make sure I am geared enough to tackle flashpoints. I don't want to cause unnecessary wipes due to my lack of gear, and I want to make sure I can carry my weight.

The fact that I rolled a tank, is enough proof that I DO care. I care about the tank shortage, and I want to alleviate it and help the community.

You don't even know me, stop making assumptions about other people's character in order to win an argument. You cannot say we should have cross-server dungeon finder because some random dude named ConradLionhart doesn't care. What kind of argument is that? We should do whatever you want because people who argue against you CLEARLY don't care about the game?
So #2?

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chaosdefined
04.05.2012 , 03:00 AM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
It is proof, it shows that many people don't want cross-server group finder. They specifically cheered at the single-server part that Gabe said. He didn't even pause for dramatic effect.

All those "small amount of players" is still more than the number of people like yourself arguing for a cross-server group finder. They are also guild leaders of guilds, who manage other gamers and ensure that they have a great time playing the game and remaining subbed. And if Bioware has to choose between them or you, pretty sure they would choose those "guild leader fan boys". Welcome to democracy.

Sorry, calling them fan-boys does not nullify the fact that I have shown more people who prefer single-server group finder. But you can call people who disagree with you fanboys all you want.

Valid reason has been linked for you, to your faces many times now. Again, if you choose not to listen to anyone but yourself, doesn't make the reason any less valid.
It is not evidence. Do you actually know what evidence means? A video of a small group of guilds does not represent the entire playerbase.

But an easy way to settle the argument would be if Bioware conducted an ingame poll for every player.

You don't want the tool, because you don't care about other players experiences. Simply don't use it and let others enjoy their game please.

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navarh
04.05.2012 , 03:00 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
I'm too busy playing on Dalborra to do that. Maybe you'd like to do that for us. Be sure to also point out the number of level 85s on a WoW server while you're at it.
EU-Kazzak - 35,681
or EU-Ravencrest 34,838 if you prefer ally servers

and that's same faction bro

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chaosdefined
04.05.2012 , 03:01 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post

The fact that I rolled a tank, is enough proof that I DO care. I care about the tank shortage, and I want to alleviate it and help the community.

You don't even know me, stop making assumptions about other people's character in order to win an argument. You cannot say we should have cross-server dungeon finder because some random dude named ConradLionhart doesn't care. What kind of argument is that? We should do whatever you want because people who argue against you CLEARLY don't care about the game?
The fact you rolled a tank has nothing to do with you caring about a Tank shortage. All that says is you either like playing a tank, or you realised this was a quicker way to get into a group. You wanted to be needed.

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ConradLionhart
04.05.2012 , 03:03 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Kucerakov View Post
He said VALID reason. The deterioration of community is a straw man crafted out of whole cloth. If the devs believe that they are morons. Played WoW for years. There was no significant difference in community after lfg was added. Anyone who says differently has invented the scenario in their minds and added details to make themselves believe it, or they are lying. Either that or they are one of the ******* kids they complain about, and want people on their server FORCED to play with them, with no other option.
Or it's the truth. There IS a deterioration in the community after cross-server LFD was implemented.

If it wasn't true, why would we lie about something that would benefit the game? You say that we deliberately invent some scenario, lie to ourselves to believe it. For what?

The cons outweigh the pros. The people have spoken. We don't want cross-server.

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The community claims are just not true. It isnot really possible to have more mmo experience than I have, and the community argument simply does not hold water. Period.
I played WoW since 2005. I played it before and after LFD. I did notice the community getting worse. As far as I am concerned, and the people who cheered for single-server group finder, that argument does hold water. I'm sorry that you are in the minority, but just because other people have different experience than yours, doesn't make them less true.

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People from high pop servers have no problem finding groups, so the same server lfg tool will not help them. Low pop servers will not be helped either. So do you assume all of the vocal people with grouping problems, not being helped at all by the same server lfg, will just shut up after 1.3, being that their situation will be unimproved? No, they will leave the game.
The vocal people will always be vocal anyway. Nothing positive comes from them.

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Reevax
04.05.2012 , 03:04 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
The fact you rolled a tank has nothing to do with you caring about a Tank shortage. All that says is you either like playing a tank, or you realised this was a quicker way to get into a group. You wanted to be needed.
I actually play a tank, still can't get a group om my "Standard" pop server.

He does not run FPs is the bottom line, so he does not care

1. People can get groups for whatever reason so they don't care

2. People don't run FPs and OPs so they don't care

In both cases a LFD would not impact the person, so no reason to oppose it.

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Reevax
04.05.2012 , 03:06 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
Or it's the truth. There IS a deterioration in the community after cross-server LFD was implemented.

If it wasn't true, why would we lie about something that would benefit the game? You say that we deliberately invent some scenario, lie to ourselves to believe it. For what?

The cons outweigh the pros. The people have spoken. We don't want cross-server.



I played WoW since 2005. I played it before and after LFD. I did notice the community getting worse. As far as I am concerned, and the people who cheered for single-server group finder, that argument does hold water. I'm sorry that you are in the minority, but just because other people have different experience than yours, doesn't make them less true.



The vocal people will always be vocal anyway. Nothing positive comes from them.
100% false.

I mean what does "community" even mean to you? My 10 man raid guild met after the LFD and we are still friends today. Is that community or not really?

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navarh
04.05.2012 , 03:08 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
I'm sorry that you are in the minority
soo if we are minority
then only us the "minority" would use cross-server tool and all other aka majority will not

where the harm then?

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ConradLionhart
04.05.2012 , 03:09 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
It is not evidence. Do you actually know what evidence means? A video of a small group of guilds does not represent the entire playerbase.

But an easy way to settle the argument would be if Bioware conducted an ingame poll for every player.

You don't want the tool, because you don't care about other players experiences. Simply don't use it and let others enjoy their game please.
It's a good sample size of the people who are against cross-server. I have yet to see you offer similar proof that a larger number of people prefer cross-server. Those people are also guild leaders being in charge of several guild members. Bioware should listen to them because more subs are on the line than the few of you.