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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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DarthTHC
04.04.2012 , 03:43 PM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
Once again the "it already happens" excuse. Because a completely random tool that matches you up with players you'll never see again wont make it any worse. Lets all just give the scum of not only our server but a group of servers even MORE incentive to treat others like crap.

Xserver and Recount supporters need to get over that excuse already. Its completely irrational. Just because there are bad players now doesnt mean its ok to /shrug and give them the tools to be better at it and do it more often.
No... it's not an excuse. It's a point.

The problem happens now anyway, and problems happen very often. The tool won't increase the frequency (percentage of runs) in which the problem appears.

What the tool WILL do is get us into groups more quickly and with less frustration than spamming LFG messages into General chat.

What the tool MIGHT do is reduce the frequency of douchebaggery. Today a group leader is god in the group and can misbehave to his heart's content. With a tool, the douchebag can be kicked out and replaced with (hopefully) a better player.

I see 2 benefits and no drawbacks to the tool.

Show me a legitimate drawback that's more specific than "it destroys the community". Go deeper. Give specific examples.

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terminova
04.04.2012 , 04:09 PM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Jederix View Post
I like that you always resort to the kids insult; usually means you are a kid yourself (which I most assuredly am not), but unlike you, I'm not going to generalize you based on a couple foolish comments. At least you are consistent.

MMO means Massively Multiplayer Online. Where exactly does the word "Community" come into that, except in your own broad interpretation of what an MMO is.

You want to know where I came up with my opinion? Why is it every time someone says that a cross server looking for group tool destroys a community they follow it up with "because we cannot blacklist people we think suck" (I'm paraphrasing, of course). Can you answer that?

I stand by my reasoning. Community builders want to be able to control the play of others so they remain top dogs, with their boot lickers a close second, and the rest of the playerbase kept firmly in check by their black lists and whatnot.

I'm certain that because I disagree with you, I'll be labeled a kid yet again. Seriously, get over yourself.
How about you get over yourself? Making grandiose claims about someone else's intentions you've never met in your entire life either online or in real life? Seriously.
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I support...wait, which thread is this? Sorry, I'm following a lot of flame wars at the moment. Uh, oh yeah, clicking!

I support clicking!

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ryathal
04.04.2012 , 04:09 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
No... it's not an excuse. It's a point.

The problem happens now anyway, and problems happen very often. The tool won't increase the frequency (percentage of runs) in which the problem appears.

What the tool WILL do is get us into groups more quickly and with less frustration than spamming LFG messages into General chat.

What the tool MIGHT do is reduce the frequency of douchebaggery. Today a group leader is god in the group and can misbehave to his heart's content. With a tool, the douchebag can be kicked out and replaced with (hopefully) a better player.

I see 2 benefits and no drawbacks to the tool.

Show me a legitimate drawback that's more specific than "it destroys the community". Go deeper. Give specific examples.

there is one negative to a new LFG system, BW has to design the UI and it will probably be so awful to use that spamming chat is still the best method.

o wait we already have that...

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Valkirus
04.04.2012 , 05:21 PM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by ryathal View Post
there is one negative to a new LFG system, BW has to design the UI and it will probably be so awful to use that spamming chat is still the best method.

o wait we already have that...
Hehe...what? A LFG tool is not going to be in 1.2 anyway..so no worries there for ya. But it is coming....the topic of this thread is not the functionality of a same server Looking for Group tool ( because WE ARE getting one ) but rather should it be a "cross server" one.
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Valkirus
04.04.2012 , 05:26 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
No... it's not an excuse. It's a point.

The problem happens now anyway, and problems happen very often. The tool won't increase the frequency (percentage of runs) in which the problem appears.

What the tool WILL do is get us into groups more quickly and with less frustration than spamming LFG messages into General chat.

What the tool MIGHT do is reduce the frequency of douchebaggery. Today a group leader is god in the group and can misbehave to his heart's content. With a tool, the douchebag can be kicked out and replaced with (hopefully) a better player.

I see 2 benefits and no drawbacks to the tool.

Show me a legitimate drawback that's more specific than "it destroys the community". Go deeper. Give specific examples.
They really cannot come up with any negatives, except they feel the addition of it would bring a bad impact on the "community" of the player base on thier server. Of course you and I and many others donot feel that is a big problem. They disagree.
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Snarking
04.04.2012 , 06:56 PM | #146
As a kind of casual gamer here, I don't have time to spend hours waiting for people who want to do the same FPs- I've never gotten to do an operation, and not enough people are doing warzones on my server.
Its cynical to assume just because it might be slightly easier to get away with being rude, means it'll be anarchy! You can probably still report bad behavior.
As for community- if you have a nice big guild, you're fine, if you don't, find one, there's your community- how does a cross server LFG tool ruin that?

lol, please think of us casual gamers.

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Darkulous
04.04.2012 , 07:12 PM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Snarking View Post
As for community- if you have a nice big guild, you're fine, if you don't, find one, there's your community- how does a cross server LFG tool ruin that?
It doesn't ruin it. The "it destroys the community" people have no idea what they're saying. Honestly, I don't think most of them have even experienced a X-server LFD.
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Esproc
04.04.2012 , 09:20 PM | #148
X-Server LFG, I don't like it many for many reasons and, with other proof to back up my claims previously posted, there is no more I need to say about that flawed tool.

So you get X-Server LFG because you have been refusing even the idea of server merges saying "NO!" you want X-Server not merges. (check prior posts to see that debate on this very thread). Now you got, what about the others? Those that do not want the X-ServerLFG flawed tool at all, be it bad experience that they "just couldn't get over it", "grow thicker skin", are going to be stuck in a community that is not what they had or wanted or feel has been desecrated, or any other things X-ServerLFG pro advocates have called the rest.

So, guilds can do their runs, not a problem. They get no special treatment, drops, gear or tokens beyond the normal allotment given by BW. Just as it has been.

X-Server gets their one button op and no special treatment for performing such mundane two click insta-grouping. This allows you to "do the same content" you so claim to desire. You get the same chance for drops, gear, and tokens as given by BW for the guild/friends/regular old school type runs.

And then you MUST make a scalable Op for all those people who do not like X-Srever LFG and may not be in a guild and want "to do the same content", and cover the possibility that they have a friend or two with them, so they can do the same Op er "the same content". Now just because they are not a full guild group, or even so much as clicking a button for that insta-group, they too must get the same drops, gear, and tokens as they would if they were a regular type run, guild run, or insta-group.

So, that takes care of the Guilds, the X-Server LFG Musthaveneeds, and the people who do not join guilds or want the X-Server LFG experience.

So we will just have to get BW to go back to the drawing board to take care of all the mechanics needed to accomplish this merely minor feat.

I mean by what I've been reading in these posts and threads of what should have been in the game before BW even thought of releasing it, well, this should be nothing.
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Skirata_Kal
04.04.2012 , 09:29 PM | #149
"Healer LFG any lvl 50 contnet" <crickets>
"LF1M dps then gtg for raid x" <crickets>

[sarcasm] Yep, that's a great, wonderful community that cross server LFG would destroy...[/sarcasm]
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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Jhayden
04.04.2012 , 09:31 PM | #150
hello all. I dont post often, but i thought it was important to post my thoughts on this.

I have been playing this game since launch. i have just recently made it to level 50 and started the endgame. here is my dilemna with endgame.

1. i haven't found any good open world pvp...

2. i almost can never find a group for a flashpoint or operation and i am using the LFG flag system. all i ever get is yelled at for spamming or asking to many people if they want to group up.

3. warzones are getting boring with the same old thing.

At this point the only time i can get fast enjoyment is by doing warzones, dailies, and space dailies. and that will get boring very fast.....

**** there needs to be a better way to find groups, or there needs to be some sort of server merge to put more people in the game at the same time.

Just my two cents to help out.