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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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RinqualFireburst
04.01.2012 , 02:25 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
I hope you're not expecting the PvP to be any better there. It's the players' fault it's failing. No one can decide what kind of PvP they like. Just look at the PvP poll, and read the posts. Proof positive.

No matter what any developer does, as far as PvP, people will hate it.
You're blaming Ilum on the players? lol

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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 02:29 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by RinqualFireburst View Post
You're blaming Ilum on the players? lol
So, I reread my post several times, and I still fail to see where I typed the word "Ilum"?

Unless, of course, you're totally reading things into what I said that I didn't say. I suspect that to be the case.

Because Ilum, by far, is not the only PvP in TOR...
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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 02:32 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by RinqualFireburst View Post
The failed open world PVP on all the planets is good then?
I remember MMOs with good open world PvP. I PvP'd to PvP. People don't do that anymore.

It's quite sad. And to think that GW2 will be any different is incredibly ignorant.
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iamxtreme
04.01.2012 , 02:40 PM | #164
as I posted in another area.. my problem with the game is that there is no filler.. nothing to do just for the heck of it.. you log on.. you open the door, you kill the monster, you loot the treasure...

just like the other 100,000 people...

how about open up the space aspect of the game? how about giving each guild its own small space station they can decorate, call home, invite others to, how about SOMETHING that makes this game more than just a pvp fest... cause thats all it is.. wanna go anywhere in the game? pvp.. want the best armor? pvp, want the best weapons? pvp.. want the coolest looking stuff? pvp.. oh.. you dont like to pvp? too bad.. sucks to be you.. there is nothing more for you in this game...

I will wait till the patch... if its just gonna be a huge pvpo only based game then im gone.. ill come back in 2 years when Bioware has come to their senses and have lost enough money from people getting tired or bored doing the same thing over and over and over and over.............................
Now im not saying that the whole world is full of stupid people..
All im saying is lets remove the warning labels off of everything and lets see what happens

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OmegaMayhem
04.01.2012 , 02:45 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by iamxtreme View Post
a wanna go anywhere in the game? pvp.. want the best armor? pvp, want the best weapons? pvp.. want the coolest looking stuff? pvp.. oh.. you dont like to pvp? too bad.. sucks to be you.. there is nothing more for you in this game...
Uh, no. This is a laughable statement.

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Hotbox
04.01.2012 , 02:48 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
I remember MMOs with good open world PvP. I PvP'd to PvP. People don't do that anymore.

It's quite sad. And to think that GW2 will be any different is incredibly ignorant.
You got that straight.

The main problem in PVP as I see it is the lack of any real effect on the world around them, and a secondary problem is the insistence on added in PVP only stats like expertise which discourages new players from PVP because of the imbalance.

Thus, PVP becomes just another loot grind.

I miss territorial PVP, like in EVE or in the old pre NGE SWG. Everyone had the equivalent ability to gear, gearing up took awhile with no cookie cutter gear/templates and everything you did had meaning.
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Supernova
04.01.2012 , 02:58 PM | #167
I will level 1 or 2 more toons, then I'm gonna quit. Leveling is a LOT of fun, but end game seems pretty boring. I mean end-game doesn't seem different from WoW at all. So if I'm going to play a bad copy of a game, I'm gonna go for the original :-P

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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 03:07 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by iamxtreme View Post
as I posted in another area.. my problem with the game is that there is no filler.. nothing to do just for the heck of it.. you log on.. you open the door, you kill the monster, you loot the treasure...

just like the other 100,000 people...

how about open up the space aspect of the game? how about giving each guild its own small space station they can decorate, call home, invite others to, how about SOMETHING that makes this game more than just a pvp fest... cause thats all it is.. wanna go anywhere in the game? pvp.. want the best armor? pvp, want the best weapons? pvp.. want the coolest looking stuff? pvp.. oh.. you dont like to pvp? too bad.. sucks to be you.. there is nothing more for you in this game...

I will wait till the patch... if its just gonna be a huge pvpo only based game then im gone.. ill come back in 2 years when Bioware has come to their senses and have lost enough money from people getting tired or bored doing the same thing over and over and over and over.............................
FYI: BioWare has an entire team dedicated to revamping the space game as we speak.
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RinqualFireburst
04.01.2012 , 03:10 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
FYI: BioWare has an entire team dedicated to revamping the space game as we speak.
Is it the same team that made the first pile of junk?
Is it the same team that designed Ilum?
Is it the same team that thought 230 servers was a good idea?
Is it the same team that released a game with no guild features?
Is it the same team that decided the Hero engine was a good idea?

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JeramieCrowe
04.01.2012 , 03:14 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by RinqualFireburst View Post
Is it the same team that made the first pile of junk? NO.
Is it the same team that designed Ilum? NO.
Is it the same team that thought 230 servers was a good idea? NO.
Is it the same team that released a game with no guild features? NO.
Is it the same team that decided the Hero engine was a good idea? NO.
Answers in red.
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