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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!


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ConradLionhart
03.31.2012 , 01:16 AM | #701
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeris_Kane View Post
Really?! REALLY?! So, for all the lowbies that want to experience the content of Athiss, Hammer Station and the rest ... are the just S O L? Well, I guess according to you they are. Be careful ... your elitism is showing.
If someone wants to roll an alt, he would roll on a more populated server.
New players will roll on more populated servers by default.

By default, lowbies have a better chance of grouping up actually. This is especially true for Dalborra. Majority of people are on coruscant/taris/nar shadda.

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illgot
03.31.2012 , 01:21 AM | #702
I vote for, basically because I'm tired of never running instances until I hit 50.

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Aeris_Kane
03.31.2012 , 01:21 AM | #703
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
If someone wants to roll an alt, he would roll on a more populated server.
New players will roll on more populated servers by default.

By default, lowbies have a better chance of grouping up actually. This is especially true for Dalborra. Majority of people are on coruscant/taris/nar shadda.
Take a few minutes and go through the forums. You'll find plenty of low-level characters saying they cannot find groups on their servers due to the population. You're basically telling them to suck it up, wait till their 50 and go do it solo.

SOLO.

Meaning single, the opposite of group ... the antithesis of community; which is the very thing you're defending by saying "no x-server LFG". Wow ... the irony.

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navarh
03.31.2012 , 01:25 AM | #704
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
The so called community
btw
i didnt pay attention before but now i look at trade/general on Fleet and it's pretty much dead… or filled with lfg spam
so where that "community"

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ConradLionhart
03.31.2012 , 01:26 AM | #705
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeris_Kane View Post
Take a few minutes and go through the forums. You'll find plenty of low-level characters saying they cannot find groups on their servers due to the population. You're basically telling them to suck it up, wait till their 50 and go do it solo.

SOLO.

Meaning single, the opposite of group ... the antithesis of community; which is the very thing you're defending by saying "no LFG". Wow ... the irony.
I didn't say no LFG. I said no cross-server LFG.

I don't believe there are not at least 4 people on a planet. If your hyperbole is correct, that NO lowbie can find a group, then all those 4 lowbies on the same planets would not have done a single heroic mission. They can group up and do them.

So even with your exaggerated hyperbole, a single-server group finder can help. No need for cross-server.

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Nindoriel
03.31.2012 , 01:26 AM | #706
I'm at a point where I dont do heroic quests, when I dont find anyone right away, and I dont think that's the purpose of those quests.

As for flashpoints, I have 2 level 50's, and I haven't done any of the max level flashpoints or operations. I tried looking for a group once or twice, but I didn't feel like waiting for such a long time at the fleet.

I dont think that the "LFG tool destroys communities" really holds any merit anymore. Some people act like ******es anyway. Yesterday I was looking for a group for a heroic quest, and when I told them I had 5 minutes left on my quick travel cooldown, they got annoyed with me and told me they are gonna start the quest, and when I'm not there for the main objective it's my own fault. There will always be people like this.

And people will not experience much negative feedback when they act like ******es, because people just forget about it and new players will join the server that have know idea who those people are and what they did. Hell, even I forgot their names already.

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Frostvein
03.31.2012 , 01:27 AM | #707
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
The only group finder that matters is the one at level 50, where you need people for dailies, group missions, flashpoints and operations.
I think Bioware would disagree with your assessment that all of the pre-50 content is meaningless.

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How do you know it won't solve anything? I don't believe that there are not at least 4 level 50s on your server. If all 4 of you want to do something, surely it is just a matter of grouping up.
I said single server LFG won't solve anything on the servers with lower population, which is at least half and probably most of them.

All that it does is encourage people who didn't want to waste their time spamming LFG to join in. Yes, you'll get a few more people in then you would normally, I don't disagree with that. But on the smaller servers where 50-75 people is the norm on the fleet during prime-time, its not going to make much of a difference, and its probably going to have little to no impact on lower level content. If you only manage 50-75 people on fleet during primetime, then there is just no way you have that number in any other level range before, during or after.

You are failing to take into account here that a fair portion of the people playing the game who could care less about PvE content. Your also forgetting about the population at 50 who is raiding and could care less about flashpoints. Now your back down to a group of what, 30 people? 40 out of 75?Not to mention that you still need to account for these other factors including but not limited to # of tanks, healers, people who run with their guild/friends, people who just don't want to do it that night....the list goes on.

At best, this "amazing" single server LFG tool is going to get a half dozen to a dozen runs per night during prime-time and maybe 1-2 off peak on a large number of servers, and I still feel like that is generous.


This is why it is not going to work. Cross server solves the problem of being limited to your ****** server to get basic content done. Yea, WoW sucks, I get it, but one of the great things about that game is I can log into their servers at any time in the day/night and get a BG/H Dungeon in.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"

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Aeris_Kane
03.31.2012 , 01:27 AM | #708
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
I didn't say no LFG. I said no cross-server LFG.

I don't believe there are not at least 4 people on a planet. If your hyperbole is correct, that NO lowbie can find a group, then all those 4 lowbies on the same planets would not have done a single heroic mission. They can group up and do them.

So even with your exaggerated hyperbole, a single-server group finder can help. No need for cross-server.
Oh, thanks for pointing that out; I'll update my original thread.

I'm just looking through the forums ... believe what you want.

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AzKnc
03.31.2012 , 01:53 AM | #709
Each day that passes without this mandatory feature, the game gets one step closer to its grave.
AzK - Jaded - The Red Eclipse
We're not in the 90's anymore.
Pro Dungeon tool. Pro Cross server. Pro Dual AC. Pro Dual spec.

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Esproc
03.31.2012 , 02:05 AM | #710
Quote: Originally Posted by AzKnc View Post
Each day that passes without this mandatory feature, the game gets one step closer to its grave.
What you call a mandatory feature is not in actuality a mandatory anything. The game shipped without it and people have been able to play the game without this "mandatory feature". It has not stopped them from playing, crashed the servers, or any such thing.

The summit was a representation of some of the SWTOR players and an outburst of applause did great the words of Single Server and no Cross Server LFG Tool.

Clearly it will not be heading into the grave as you may hope because it does not cater to everyone. The Devs have made their choice on the matter, even going so far as to be saying the same thing about "those bad people" that have been mentioned here not being allowed to ruin game experience for other players.

I will continue to watch to see if they mention, if or even when, they may plan on server merges and other options they may cover.
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