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Valkirus
03.27.2012 , 09:59 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
When Blizzard did this, they had queue times on a lot of servers that tended to encourage players to move.

As far as I've seen, only one SWTOR server has any sort of queue and it's not that bad.

I don't think this approach will work here. Everyone wants to be on a more populated server. Without the pain of long queues as incentive to move, nobody is going to choose to move.
I agree with what you are saying...but it is the only smart way to do it if they allow server transfers. To come out and say " ok guys, everyone can transfer whoever you want to whatever server you want to move to" would be just plain dumb. I think the team at Bioware is a smart one.
Trust is something which is earned.

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 10:01 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I think the team at Bioware is a smart one.
I dunno, they did come out with the cracking quote of "Everyone has had good opinions on the game, even those that quit." which made me kinda slap my forehead.

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Orizuru
03.27.2012 , 10:01 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Bakinpacman View Post
You are telling me that my information is made up yet i made no statement that i was telling you this is how their servers are physically setup.

I only stated that the servers are run in that standardized setup as it is currently the only most efficient way to do it but it is not actually the most efficient way to setup a network as we have not found out the most optimal ways to set the servers up yet in a networking perspective.
You're still speculating while complaining about my speculations. You think it's an issue, I don't. Agree to disagree and move on.
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And to your second comment about anonymity, i can still block your character and it will block all your alternate characters if BioWare has physically set it up correctly.
Why can't this same reasoning be applied to a player from another server? You can ignore them too and never deal with them again. How does cross server interaction change this at all?
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Also to your arguments about how x-server does not degrade community i ask you this question, Why should A community which is perfect have to deal with B community which is full people who A community does not want to associate with?

If you try to pull the question apart in anyway you are avoiding the question.
If you don't want to interact with players from other servers there is nothing forcing you to do so. Simply choose to not use the function and find groups with players on your own server.

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navarh
03.27.2012 , 10:03 AM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by anaz View Post
I have given links that show this growing significantly which has backed up my argument.
and where we can see that "grow" or that 1.7kk of players?

all i see now is major hub with what? pathetic 100-250ppl on them? whole server maybe reach 400-500 high level players…
massive multiplayer?
where?

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Bakinpacman
03.27.2012 , 10:04 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I agree with what you are saying...but it is the only smart way to do it if they allow server transfers. To come out and say " ok guys, everyone can transfer whoever you want to whatever server you want to move to" would be just plain dumb. I think the team at Bioware is a smart one.
I understand your viewpoint but the problem with WoW was that they wanted larger servers to move to smaller servers. However what everyone here is saying is that they want to move from the smaller servers to the larger servers.

This is a completely reversed situation which is much easier to fix as there is actual incentive other than queue times to move from one server that is low to a Standard/High Server.

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 10:06 AM | #146
In regards to the supposed 'growth'.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8102ED20120202

Initial sales of 2million.

End of February current subscribers 1.7million.

Not saying the game is dying, just saying it's not growing and really needs to look to improving player attention and accessibility.

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Valkirus
03.27.2012 , 10:06 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Bakinpacman View Post
I understand your viewpoint but the problem with WoW was that they wanted larger servers to move to smaller servers. However what everyone here is saying is that they want to move from the smaller servers to the larger servers.

This is a completely reversed situation which is much easier to fix as there is actual incentive other than queue times to move from one server that is low to a Standard/High Server.
That is not going to happen tho. People can daydream all they want.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Bakinpacman
03.27.2012 , 10:11 AM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by Orizuru View Post
You're still speculating while complaining about my speculations. You think it's an issue, I don't. Agree to disagree and move on.
I understand why you believe your assumption but it does not give you the right to say my assumption is false.

Quote: Originally Posted by Orizuru View Post
Why can't this same reasoning be applied to a player from another server? You can ignore them too and never deal with them again. How does cross server interaction change this at all?
Because then you would have an ignore list that would need to be able to keep records of x amount of players and their alts on every server that is linked with x amount of other people ignoring x amount of players which cause a massive database and anyone knows that massive databases are bad as the load time for them get larger and larger with every input.

Quote: Originally Posted by Orizuru View Post
If you don't want to interact with players from other servers there is nothing forcing you to do so. Simply choose to not use the function and find groups with players on your own server.
And why should i be forced to find groups without a single server group finder just because you believe that BioWare must listen to your requests as if they are from god himself.

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Bakinpacman
03.27.2012 , 10:12 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
That is not going to happen tho. People can daydream all they want.
And why should i have to deal with your problem if you will not help fix the problem yourself?

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chaosdefined
03.27.2012 , 10:14 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Bakinpacman View Post


Because then you would have an ignore list that would need to be able to keep records of x amount of players and their alts on every server that is linked with x amount of other people ignoring x amount of players which cause a massive database and anyone knows that massive databases are bad as the load time for them get larger and larger with every input.
Slight exaggeration.