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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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When will there be a "SERVER MERGE?"

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Kubernetic
04.05.2012 , 02:52 PM | #641
Quote: Originally Posted by trueanimus View Post
1 main server (not an expansion server) doing great...

meanwhile back in the real world...


Expansion server The Razor last night prime time had a max of 50 on imp fleet, 16 in EV, and 3-4 per planet..


face it.. either they merge servers soon or offer a multi toon server move (since i have 6 level 50s now) or a LOT of people will leave.. on the razor you cant even get a group for HMs and ops are out of the question.. not to mention PVP ques are like 4-5 hours at least.. and this is during prime time!!
I see the misunderstanding... he was referring to that server, specifically. In this particular instance, I was not trying to extrapolate that server's performance to everyone else's.

By now I've realized that some people are happiest on their unpopulated servers, and they'll leave the game before they leave the server. I don't understand it, but I guess I never will.

I doubt they'll ever merge servers. Many of you are thinking in terms of failure, when BioWare's obvious goal is to bring more people into the game. I'm sure it's hard to understand why they aren't accepting your defeatist attitudes, but then again that's why they're called "defeatist" attitudes.

It makes no sense to merge servers now while planning to bring more people into the game, which might simply require expansion servers again. This is why they are in control of their game and you are not.

They've announced server transfers are on the way. They've announced that cross-server warzone queueing is on the way. What else can they say other than repeating what they've already said, which players are obviously ignoring?

They've provided you with the means and ability to fix your situation, even in this time when server transfers and cross-server queueing are not yet available. How is it their fault if you refuse to do so? They can't be your mommy and daddy. They run a service.

If players aren't smart enough to utilize the service and its capabilities, I'm not sure there's much more that they can do to rectify that situation, except to bring in a greater number of smarter players.

Don't mean to sound too bitter... but I'm all out of honey in regards to this topic.
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04.05.2012 , 02:56 PM | #642
Quote: Originally Posted by Kiphere View Post
It's something they jus thave to deal with. There is no graceful way of dealing with this.

I'm an IT architect. When I build a system at work I ask myself if it's scalable in both directions and what concerns come up with motion in either direction. That's something any project should look at, growth and decline.

They answered the growth with more servers at launch instead of upping hte caps on existing servers... they had to do that because their engine simply couldn't support 'more' people in one spot, it can barely support what it's got and what it has isn't that much. I think that might be one of the primary causes they aren't jumping on the merge train. If they make all the servers higher population they'll have to deal with more than just name backlash, they'll have to deal with all the people who suddnly took a performance hit because they have more than 8 people walking around them.
They will deal with it, I'm certain of that. I'm certain that mergers will not be the answer. But, like I said to someone else, the only answer you want to hear is merger and anything less will just make you mad.

I'm just preparing you to be mad.
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justandulas
04.05.2012 , 03:02 PM | #643
Quote: Originally Posted by andrelle View Post
I think you should consider rerolling now, since you really enjoy the game. In my opinion, 1.2 will make it worse. Sure, there may be a few thousand more people coming back to check it out. But BW is focused on their Legacy system. Legacy basically encourages the single player mindset. It is all about rerolling and playing up alts for perks. Think about it long-term and what it means. If you continue to reroll to gain legacy perks, you are not going to want to transfer later, or be part of a server merge. And as far as we know, none of the legacy perks are useable in WZs. So, if you want to hit a high-pop server, I would really find one now.
I love the community on bondar crystal, and have alot of friends there that were assigned there by Bioware at launch with me. I am going to stick it out until 1.2 to see if it has any positive impact on the server. I would prefer a straight server transfer rather then rerolling though. I have far too much time and energy put into my character's and legacy to just up and abandon it now. Unfortunately, with cross server wz's and character transfers not here for awhile, I may have no choice if 1.2 doesn't fix alot of the population issue's on Bondar Crystal. I love SWTOR and think Bioware did a fantastic job with the game, and I want to play it for years to come, but it is very discouraging to log into a near death server. If a merger doesn't happen, or if transfers aren't free, then what? I am going to have to convince my friends to all pay a transfer fee just so we can play the game with others. Bioware has around 1/3 too many servers IMO and should start merging 2-3 of the light/standard ones together until they have nothing left but heavy servers. I'd put up with a server que all day, everyday, if it meant the server had a healthy population to play with/against. There is no shame in server merges, WoW does it once every few months in fact.
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04.05.2012 , 03:05 PM | #644
I will re-post this yet again....
Source : http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...35#post3196835

Hello everyone. I can absolutely understand the frustrations expressed here, and I appreciate that for the most part, you're being constructive in your comments. Here's a little more insight into the situation.

The character transfer system is being actively worked on by the development team. It's a large, complex project, made more complicated by the Legacy System - and it has to work perfectly. As always, it is not the only task the team as a whole is undertaking, but it's a priority. It has not been deliberately delayed, nor is it being 'held back' for any reason. As you know, the first stage of the system will be a one-off, optional transfer for those who are based in the regions defined in our FAQ. At some point after that, we'll bring a more fully-featured character transfer system online for all to use.

I can understand the frustration of those of you who have been playing on the US servers and waiting for transfers. We know your enthusiasm and excitement for the game - you wouldn't have taken the steps you did to get the game earlier than the official launch if you weren't enthusiastic. We're working as hard as we can to get the system in place. If we could have brought it online earlier, we would have. However, priorities post-launch had to be directed towards the game itself. The team's been working flat-out to improve the game, including bug fixes and additional content.

When we announced our launch territories last year we knew many more fans were excited to play The Old Republic. That's why we moved quickly to launch in Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong and Singapore, with more territories being lined up for future launches. Our primary focus when launching in any new territory has to be to reach more players. Ultimately, that's best for the continuing success of the game. We want everyone who wishes to play on the new servers to be able to do so, hence character transfer being offered. With that said, in this case we felt it was important to get the game into the hands of new players as soon as possible. That, combined with our post-launch development priorities, meant that character transfer did not make our launch date for these territories.

The development team remains committed to delivering a robust character transfer system for all, with our first priority being for Asia-Pacific players. If we can bring the system to you earlier than expected, we will, but for now we’re aiming towards late April.
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04.05.2012 , 03:16 PM | #645
Does everyone not realize if they open transfers it's going to make another batch of servers terrible as well? The people re-rolling are already effecting tons of NA/EU servers, tranfers could kill dozens of others
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justandulas
04.05.2012 , 03:25 PM | #646
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
Does everyone not realize if they open transfers it's going to make another batch of servers terrible as well? The people re-rolling are already effecting tons of NA/EU servers, tranfers could kill dozens of others
What other choice do we have though? We don't want to abandon our hard work on our toons (some people high lvl legacy, other's high valor pvp) but it's very disheartening and discouraging to play on a server that is hemorraging players for whatever reason. I would like 2-3 servers merged together until there's nothing like but heavy pop servers but if transfers become available, how many of us really attached to our characters wouldn't move to a server like Swiftsure or the fatman? I want my server to thrive and succeed as I really like the community Bondar crystal has, but it cannot survive at this pre 1.2 rate of attricion. If 1.2 doesn't bring alot of people back, it is inevitable that most of my server will run off to the fatman.
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04.05.2012 , 03:43 PM | #647
Quote: Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
What other choice do we have though? We don't want to abandon our hard work on our toons (some people high lvl legacy, other's high valor pvp) but it's very disheartening and discouraging to play on a server that is hemorraging players for whatever reason. I would like 2-3 servers merged together until there's nothing like but heavy pop servers but if transfers become available, how many of us really attached to our characters wouldn't move to a server like Swiftsure or the fatman? I want my server to thrive and succeed as I really like the community Bondar crystal has, but it cannot survive at this pre 1.2 rate of attricion. If 1.2 doesn't bring alot of people back, it is inevitable that most of my server will run off to the fatman.
Odds are right now that one of the things they are doing are figuring out which servers they are going to move characters from and to as i am sure we will not be able to pick any server.
They screwed up with the servers but we have to understand that the fix isn't easy.

Whats going to happen when people are not going to be allowed to just transfer where ever they wish?

Whats going to happen when they find out they will lose their character name and legacy because someone else on the server they move t created it 10 min earlier then they did?
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04.05.2012 , 03:45 PM | #648
Quote: Originally Posted by WhiskyJax View Post
Odds are right now that one of the things they are doing are figuring out which servers they are going to move characters from and to as i am sure we will not be able to pick any server.
Since they clearly have stated that server mergers are not likely, I will take those odds. What do I get when I win?

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Touchbass
04.05.2012 , 03:45 PM | #649
Quote: Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
What other choice do we have though? We don't want to abandon our hard work on our toons (some people high lvl legacy, other's high valor pvp) but it's very disheartening and discouraging to play on a server that is hemorraging players for whatever reason. I would like 2-3 servers merged together until there's nothing like but heavy pop servers but if transfers become available, how many of us really attached to our characters wouldn't move to a server like Swiftsure or the fatman? I want my server to thrive and succeed as I really like the community Bondar crystal has, but it cannot survive at this pre 1.2 rate of attricion. If 1.2 doesn't bring alot of people back, it is inevitable that most of my server will run off to the fatman.
Yeah that sucks, I would like to see the bottom 40-60 servers merged and we're good I've talked to a few people on Fatman, it's way to populated. I feel bad for the natives there
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WhiskyJax
04.05.2012 , 04:01 PM | #650
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
Yeah that sucks, I would like to see the bottom 40-60 servers merged and we're good I've talked to a few people on Fatman, it's way to populated. I feel bad for the natives there
We are our own worst enemy really
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