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SWTOR. Too much theme park?


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mattgyver
03.29.2012 , 08:27 AM | #151
I'm going to take back some of my comments about Tatooine. While the exhaustion zones are still something I hate, the overall design is good. I do wish there were less windmills and large structures. But overall they did a good job with the actual zones. I just wish there were some non-linear activities there: Level 50 Heroics, Rare resource nodes only found on Tat. And also another town or too would be good, something on the order of anchorhead but smaller maybe.

Would be good if both factions could be in same towns as well.

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Goretzu
03.29.2012 , 08:31 AM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by mattgyver View Post
I'm going to take back some of my comments about Tatooine. While the exhaustion zones are still something I hate, the overall design is good. I do wish there were less windmills and large structures. But overall they did a good job with the actual zones. I just wish there were some non-linear activities there: Level 50 Heroics, Rare resource nodes only found on Tat. And also another town or too would be good, something on the order of anchorhead but smaller maybe.

Would be good if both factions could be in same towns as well.


Tattoine is one of the best planets, there's only a couple of the exhaustion zones that are a bit jarring (there's one in the Dune Sea, I think, that you can litterly emote across but die if you try to run across it).

The group v group PvP zone is nice too, but without better incentives no one uses it.
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mattgyver
03.29.2012 , 08:33 AM | #153
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Tattoine is one of the best planets, there's only a couple of the exhaustion zones that are a bit jarring (there's one in the Dune Sea, I think, that you can litterly emote across but die if you try to run across it).

The group v group PvP zone is nice too, but without better incentives no one uses it.
They should remove those damn exhaustion zones

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sjmc
03.29.2012 , 09:17 AM | #154
While annoying, the exhaustion zones serve two purposes.

They prevent you from going out into the desert where there is no actual terrain, without them having to put an out-of-place mountain or canyon there.

They also prevent you from entering the enemy spaceport town. Tatooine is the first planet where you can experience PvP, so they introduce it gradually. It starts with a perfectly safe town, then provides questing areas that are closer and closer to enemies -- culminating in a shared bonus series area. This ensures that the new level 25, having never seen PvP, isn't slaughtered by level 50s the moment he gets out of his ship hanger. He can at least make it to the speeder vendor to buy his first speeder.

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mattgyver
03.29.2012 , 08:12 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by sjmc View Post
While annoying, the exhaustion zones serve two purposes.

They prevent you from going out into the desert where there is no actual terrain, without them having to put an out-of-place mountain or canyon there.

They also prevent you from entering the enemy spaceport town. Tatooine is the first planet where you can experience PvP, so they introduce it gradually. It starts with a perfectly safe town, then provides questing areas that are closer and closer to enemies -- culminating in a shared bonus series area. This ensures that the new level 25, having never seen PvP, isn't slaughtered by level 50s the moment he gets out of his ship hanger. He can at least make it to the speeder vendor to buy his first speeder.
The edge of the map is less jarring, I've experienced it before and its a better solution.

How does the ganking work on a PvE server? They roll into the space port and taunt you into attacking them? Put some level 55 guards there and it's good. Or even better just open it up and make it a no attack zone (duels only).

There is zero chance they will remove those exhaustion zones though.

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tekkamansoul
03.29.2012 , 08:52 PM | #156
Oh, the *********** irony...

Remove all quests from SWTOR, have 'planets' simply be leveling zones, and these threads die out. Instead they will be replaced with a billion other complaints.

Hate hate hate hate hate hate

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LingormR
03.29.2012 , 08:54 PM | #157
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I personally feel that there is not enough theme park. As a matter of fact, I was disappointed thoroughly by the Corellia roller coaster.
Yeah, it was noting like what they have at Six Flags.
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mattgyver
03.29.2012 , 11:05 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by tekkamansoul View Post
Oh, the *********** irony...

Remove all quests from SWTOR, have 'planets' simply be leveling zones, and these threads die out. Instead they will be replaced with a billion other complaints.

Hate hate hate hate hate hate
How is this Hate? I have two active subs, three copies of the game, and I log time almost every day. I'm trying to give feedback, I don't want to injure anyone or cause BW to throw up their hands and quit.

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Goretzu
03.30.2012 , 02:38 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by tekkamansoul View Post
Oh, the *********** irony...

Remove all quests from SWTOR, have 'planets' simply be leveling zones, and these threads die out. Instead they will be replaced with a billion other complaints.

Hate hate hate hate hate hate




The thing is, it is not an either/or option, and I've no idea why people think it should/would be.


You could have both..... imagine that!


love love love love love love
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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ConradLionhart
03.30.2012 , 02:42 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
The thing is, it is not an either/or option, and I've no idea why people think it should/would be.


You could have both..... imagine that!


love love love love love love
Give me an example of a successful MMO that has a nice mix of both themepark and sandbox.

People want this perfect medium where themepark + sandbox = greatest MMO ever. But WoW isn't like that. It is themepark.

The only sandbox MMO I've played is Eve Online, and I don't know if it even has 1 million subs.

If themepark + sandbox is the best combo, why is the themepark MMO the one with 10m subs?