Does an MMO need a story?

Some people claim this to be the case, still it's usual for a lot of players to come back when a major update is released, in order to see if they like it better this time around. People aren't as unforgiving as you make them out to be, they are just hard to please, rightly or wrongly.

You haven't played anything other than WoW correct?

WoW has by far the most brain dead crafting system I've ever seen. At least here you have to concern yourself if your minions like you or not. The sad part of your post and so many others here is that you think that boring, easy, Skinner box is the pinnacle of MMOs.

It's a cartoon that gives you pretty clothes for following predetermined scripts. And like every other loot grinding game, has broken PvP.

Well not for 1.2 but I imagine a HUGE add campain for when the CLASS stories are expanded. THAT is when the MAJOR changes will occur and not before cause with that EXPANSION will likely be a total overhaul of the game engine.

Remember WINDOWS 8 is comming out Q4 this year. I suspect the game will require a directx 11 client then.

Has anyone considered WIN8 looming release is why they arent investing in major game engine changes only to have to do it again in 8 months cause of all the new PCs people buy for holidays.

Perhaps but its not a good business model and its certainly not fun for server's regular players when the game's population is entirely dependent upon when the next patch comes out.

That's a game killer and its a path toward the eventual and horrifying free to play existence.

Well not for 1.2 but I imagine a HUGE add campain for when the CLASS stories are expanded. THAT is when the MAJOR changes will occur and not before cause with that EXPANSION will likely be a total overhaul of the game engine.

Remember WINDOWS 8 is comming out Q4 this year. I suspect the game will require a directx 11 client then.

Has anyone considered WIN8 looming release is why they arent investing in major game engine changes only to have to do it again in 8 months cause of all the new PCs people buy for holidays.

This is very funny.

First you dismiss the crafting system used by one game, calling it "brain dead", then you applaud one used in another even though they're virtually identical. In both games, you open a "crafting window" then click a button, then wait for the results. The main difference being, one game pushes you to utilize the community for some of your crafting materials and the other allows you to be self-reliant.

Skipping fact that it's just another "I quit" disguised as discussion...

Does MMO need story:
No, there are plenty of those without any, even in quests.

Does any game need story:
Aside from adventure games, where whole point is to tell story, no, you can even make game that will pass as RPG that don't have story.

Does game need graphics:
No, lot of good games didn't have those and did just fine.

Does MMORPG need clases, crafting, endgame?
As above, no, there were ones that did just fine without them.

Does MMO need LFG, Arenas, or pandas?
I know of only one where players can't imagine life without them, so also no.


But then
Does Elder Scrolls game need Argonians? Does FPS need shooting? Does game advertised by cute alien pigs need cute alien pigs? Does story based MMO by BioWare need story?
Absolutely.

If I didn't want story in my MMO, i would go play something else.

I didn't say one was better I said one was marginally more involved. In the few weeks I was able to tolerate WoW, I never had to do anything other than gather materials and push a button. Hell, you can't even fail. It's all automatic.

If you guys hate SWTOR so much why can you just take your ball and go home. Why do you have to infect these forums with your self-important venom. WoW is still running. Go play it if you like it better. There are literally hundreds of MMOs on the market. Something there has to fit your fancy.