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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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Alderaan Warzone: If you're Losing DON"T CAP!

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TheLastWolfman
03.27.2012 , 08:23 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by matekwong View Post
The OP thinks that he is a WZ expert or something.

Guys, just stop feeding the kid. he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Hi matekwong,

Whilst I will not accede to the OP's request, and have presented my reasons for that in this thread, I do accept the logical argument he/she represents.

An Ad Hominem attack is not called for. The OP has been reasonable and engaging and presents a viewpoint for discussion.

You on the other hand add nothing.

Regards
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biowareftw
03.27.2012 , 08:40 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Ch_Zero View Post
If you are going to lose a game against the opposite faction and they 3 cap you,

Don't try to be a hero and cap one of the bases, it just slows down the game.

You can argue for defender points, but it's alot better to farm a position while the flag has been capped by the opposite faction, since they will keep rushing to defend the flag.

This speeds up the game and makes it so you can get your 4 medals quite easily.


Thank you
At the OP. Pretty obvious you don't have it...or don't get it.


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Jiayuan
03.27.2012 , 08:41 PM | #333
Does nobody think that practicing your PvP skills despite poor odds a good enough reason to fight on in a losing situation?

That said I'm not diving into situations which will result in almost instant death but I will always defend the last turret til the end if I there is a chance of taking down a few of the opposition.

Quitters never imagined that they are losing because they are bad due to lack of practice do they?

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Formless_Voice
03.27.2012 , 09:13 PM | #334
As others have pointed out "giving up" does not sit well with a lot of people.

Firstly the mathematically inevitable situation is mislabeled as inevitability requires 100% which doesnt exist in anything except Voidstar which is addressed in 1.2 or Huttball where the score differential exceeds the minimum required scoring time, but at that point its such a short time left anyway who cares. Civil war is never inevitable.

Personally the main reason I encourage people to fight it out even beyond the point of seeming impossibility is that the alternative is developing a habit of giving up. I have seen dozens of wins turn to losses because people abandoned nodes they didnt think they could hold or didnt push a little harder because it seemed like the other team was too good but I have also seen games turned around when the negative players werent present and certain wins lost because the same people who give up when they feel they are losing assume certain victory when they are winning and dont play as hard as they should.

Giving up is a terrible habit to have and a difficult one to break. Practice assault if you are losing - work out why you didnt do better. If you make excuses at the end of a game why you lost you missed the point, what you need to think about is what you could have done better to win and if that answer is nothing I am certain you had some fun (and a little frustration).
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Dovahbrah
03.27.2012 , 10:21 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
Please tell me your toon name and server - OP too.

I want to know the names of ALL the squids.

That way I can never, ever play with born losers.

I'd rather play with 5 year olds with 11k hit points who aren't quitters than play with a squid goof.

I'm sure the 4 or 5 good PvP guilds on my server would love to know your name too.
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Gnoblesse
03.27.2012 , 10:27 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Zbus View Post
This kind of comment reminds me so much of WOW AV. Have a game that lasted more than 10 mins and the supposed pro guys would start calling you a noob because you forced a turtle game where you would have to spend /gasp 20 to 25 mins killing the other faction. Everyone needed to follow the script all your team go right the horde left and race race race to the keep lord. Heck if you could avoid fighting any one of the other faction that was considred a great sucess /boggle
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flem
03.27.2012 , 11:07 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
If you're behind 400 to 150 the other team clearly has you beaten from the beginning. Why would they suddenly fall asleep and let you cap one of their two turrets in the first place?
Because scores don't reflect anything except who held the cap points.

They might have had a full team to start, and you were short. They might have had better quickcappers/stoppers on the sides, with just one or two crucial mistakes by your team letting them start out with a lead they've been clinging on to. Your team might have required several fatal engagements to figure out and communicate who their healers are. It might be the first match of the morning and people are still waking up. Anything! There are plenty of ways you can get to 400-150 without it being scrubs v All-Stars.
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KorinHyvek
03.27.2012 , 11:11 PM | #338
I can certainly understand throwing in the towel. On the other hand, there is something to be said for fighting it out until the bitter end. Would sports be interesting if the losing team gave up when they thought they had very little chance of winning? Moral Victories are still victories in my book.

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DakataTan
03.27.2012 , 11:27 PM | #339
Pvping for pvps sake. Could care less about the result, a generation of whiners mean we still get reasonable payouts when we lose so **** it let's just fight, meet u behind the shuttle on void
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Gformutorila
03.28.2012 , 02:35 AM | #340
Yesterday I had a Alderaan battle where we lost 0-600.
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