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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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Xinika
03.23.2012 , 07:07 PM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by grintar View Post
now requires the bm equivalent to trade in. Latest patch on pts
Good.
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mordredz
03.23.2012 , 07:09 PM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by ClogMan View Post
This is just LOL.

So as a champion geared player, in 1.2 this is what i will have to do, to be a tad more usefull then a wet noodle in PvP, after 1.2 patch:

1) Ditch all Champ + cent gear.
2) Buy a recruit PvP set for 500K.
3) Play some non rated warzone to get 417 warzone comms.
4) Spend saved warzone comms (max 1333 after being robbed in the merc. comms conversion) + 417 = 1750 on a BM mainhand weapon.
5) Play non rated warsones for BM gear.
6) a month later, start playing rated warzones to replace BM gear for war hero gear

Thats just great....
Hmm champ is better than recruit so -1 for that, ya pretty much fail after that point...

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vimm
03.23.2012 , 07:13 PM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by flem View Post
This, incidentally, is somewhere between the cost of a single BM armor piece (2 tokens = 8000) and the BM mainhand (3 tokens = 12000) right now.
Mind explosion.
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GeneralShade
03.23.2012 , 07:13 PM | #154
Haven't posted in a long time but I'm trying to wrap my head around the logic of the people complaining in this thread and I just can't.

1.) MMO pvp will never be strictly "skill" based. Someone with better gear is always going to have an advantage. If you want to pvp on equal terms, you should consider playing a genre that supports this (fighting game, shooter, etc).

2.) When you're a fresh 50 you'll have access to recruit gear which is on par with the current cent/champion gear and will be fighting in non-rated. The highest geared people that will be fighting in non-rated matches (regularly) are likely going to be mixed champ/BM geared players that still need to flesh out the rest of their BM set. Once they do it is likely they'll be running rated wzs. If anything, this will be better than it is now (less chances of a fully BM geared group rotfl stomping you).

3.) When you first step into rated wzs, yes you will likely be stomped as you build your war hero set, but that would happen if there were no BM requisites for War Hero gear anyway (People hopping in rated under-geared, getting stomped and causing frustration for their team-mates).


TLR: Stop complaining, if anything this process will make the pvp armor progression process easier.

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Xinika
03.23.2012 , 07:39 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by GeneralShade View Post
Haven't posted in a long time but I'm trying to wrap my head around the logic of the people complaining in this thread and I just can't.

1.) MMO pvp will never be strictly "skill" based. Someone with better gear is always going to have an advantage. If you want to pvp on equal terms, you should consider playing a genre that supports this (fighting game, shooter, etc).

2.) When you're a fresh 50 you'll have access to recruit gear which is on par with the current cent/champion gear and will be fighting in non-rated. The highest geared people that will be fighting in non-rated matches (regularly) are likely going to be mixed champ/BM geared players that still need to flesh out the rest of their BM set. Once they do it is likely they'll be running rated wzs. If anything, this will be better than it is now (less chances of a fully BM geared group rotfl stomping you).

3.) When you first step into rated wzs, yes you will likely be stomped as you build your war hero set, but that would happen if there were no BM requisites for War Hero gear anyway (People hopping in rated under-geared, getting stomped and causing frustration for their team-mates).


TLR: Stop complaining, if anything this process will make the pvp armor progression process easier.
It's already stupid easy as it is.
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-Alma-
03.23.2012 , 08:08 PM | #156
1.2 will help fresh 50s get into pvp gear faster, which is great as it means I can gear up my alts straight away and farm warzones for better gear perhaps a week or so faster than pre 1.2.

However, what 1.2 wont do in any shape way or form, is make a player who hasnt got the foggiest idea about his class or objectives in pvp warzones, better. A few % of expertise is notgoing to make a difference for those people. There will still be QQ on the forums about being outgeared as people blame their gear (even the new recruit stuff no doubt) is at fault and not their -25 IQ. Good players will still make a dash for the door when pugging warzones that are full of baddies running around like headless chickens.

TLDR - In 1.2, the good players will still win regardless of gear, the bad players will still get facerolled, no matter what gear they are in.

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tekhiun
03.23.2012 , 08:29 PM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by ClogMan View Post
This is just LOL.

So as a champion geared player, in 1.2 this is what i will have to do, to be a tad more usefull then a wet noodle in PvP, after 1.2 patch:

1) Ditch all Champ + cent gear.
2) Buy a recruit PvP set for 500K.
3) Play some non rated warzone to get 417 warzone comms.
4) Spend saved warzone comms (max 1333 after being robbed in the merc. comms conversion) + 417 = 1750 on a BM mainhand weapon.
5) Play non rated warsones for BM gear.
6) a month later, start playing rated warzones to replace BM gear for war hero gear

Thats just great....
Welcome to true gear progression.

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tekhiun
03.23.2012 , 08:33 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by -Alma- View Post
1.2 will help fresh 50s get into pvp gear faster, which is great as it means I can gear up my alts straight away and farm warzones for better gear perhaps a week or so faster than pre 1.2.

However, what 1.2 wont do in any shape way or form, is make a player who hasnt got the foggiest idea about his class or objectives in pvp warzones, better. A few % of expertise is notgoing to make a difference for those people. There will still be QQ on the forums about being outgeared as people blame their gear (even the new recruit stuff no doubt) is at fault and not their -25 IQ. Good players will still make a dash for the door when pugging warzones that are full of baddies running around like headless chickens.

TLDR - In 1.2, the good players will still win regardless of gear, the bad players will still get facerolled, no matter what gear they are in.

This is totally true , not to mention that gear is quite easy to get now . You can get more than 28 bags withing 3 days of hitting 50 if you do things right. This is what I did with my shadow , he has full pvp gear now 3 days after hitting 50, 2 champ pieces and 2 centurion SETS for differenct specs. IF that isnt easy for you you are playing the wrong game.

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Hardsteel
03.23.2012 , 09:01 PM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by RavenBB View Post
To all GIVE ME THE SAME GEAR AS A TRUE PVP HARDCORE GRINDER:

Do you really think that you deserve the same PvP gear after playing a total of 300WZ as someone with valor 75 who played 3000?

This person is a true War Hero, likes to PvP, playes PvP, helps a team a lot and commands a team. He deserves to be rewarded.

The game is about both skill and time spend. Like in real life. Nothing is for free, you gotta earn it.
Apparently you have not played alot of MMO's, This systme will change alot in given year.

But from what your saying that a guy who has leveled thru pve content is not entitled to the gear. where the player has spent hours doing missoins and paying for gear loss and buying countless stims etc to level the right way.

Bioware should have keep the valor ranking system the way it was and removed xp from PVP and if you wanted to pvp all the time then u can still at level 10 and get ur valor ranking maxx but you have get pve xp to get up to the battlemaster gear. This whining about who entitled and who is not is really crazy. It should not matter about gear anyway if you play a console game you both are on equal terms as in play so why should this be any different..

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Slurmez
03.23.2012 , 09:45 PM | #160
Wish I could just trade in the mods, Im going to be very reluctant to relinquish my decent looking BM gear for super asstastic looking War Hero stuff, oh well, will just have to pick up another set of it when 1.2 hits