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Still have little/no desire to play a non force class

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Still have little/no desire to play a non force class

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Darth_Solrac
03.21.2012 , 10:48 AM | #1
Just ceases being like SW to me. I may try IA tho. Agree?
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Guild: Imperial Army.
Darth (Markos) Solrac: LV 50, Dark Sith Sorcerer.
Draykos Solrac: LV 29, Dark grey Jedi Guardian.

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Stenrik
03.21.2012 , 10:56 AM | #2
Actually, I have the opposite problem.
I can't identify with force-users. It feels too "mage-ish" and made-up, and just ruins immersion for me. Maybe because the force is so visible and tangible in this game (can be "spent" on a bar, and flashy animations), whereas the force in the "real Star Wars" is much more ethereal. Or maybe it's because I don't go for eastern mysticism in general...

That said, you'd probably be best off with a bounty hunter or smuggler if you want "star wars-ish." Just because they have more of a basis in movie characters. Probably bounty hunter especially, since their moves are more signature to star wars (wrist attacks, jetpack).

Personality-wise, I like the smuggler because the story has a sense of independence, and your dealings with the seedy underworld are very star-wars in nature (lots of cantina interactions, etc...). You get the sense of a "lived-in universe" that the franchise is known for. You're reminded that the galaxy is a place where many look out for themselves in contrast to following some rigid code. To me this doesn't detract from Star Wars, but enhances it as as whole. It reminds you that the Galaxy is a WORLD, not just a lightsaber battleground.

Agent is actually the least "star wars-ey" since it has no basis in the cannon or even the franchise in general. They just needed to make up a stealth/ranged class for the Empire. Surprised you'd choose that one. Not saying agent's BAD, just probably not what you want.

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Darth_Solrac
03.21.2012 , 11:11 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Stenrik View Post
Actually, I have the opposite problem.
I can't identify with force-users. It feels too "mage-ish" and made-up, and just ruins immersion for me. Maybe because the force is so visible and tangible in this game (can be "spent" on a bar, and flashy animations), whereas the force in the "real Star Wars" is much more ethereal. Or maybe it's because I don't go for eastern mysticism in general...

That said, you'd probably be best off with a bounty hunter or smuggler if you want "star wars-ish." Just because they have more of a basis in movie characters. Probably bounty hunter especially, since their moves are more signature to star wars (wrist attacks, jetpack).

Personality-wise, I like the smuggler because the story has a sense of independence, and your dealings with the seedy underworld are very star-wars in nature (lots of cantina interactions, etc...). You get the sense of a "lived-in universe" that the franchise is known for. You're reminded that the galaxy is a place where many look out for themselves in contrast to following some rigid code. To me this doesn't detract from Star Wars, but enhances it as as whole. It reminds you that the Galaxy is a WORLD, not just a lightsaber battleground.

Agent is actually the least "star wars-ey" since it has no basis in the cannon or even the franchise in general. They just needed to make up a stealth/ranged class for the Empire. Surprised you'd choose that one. Not saying agent's BAD, just probably not what you want.
If there aint a lightsaber on my belt, it just loses alot of appeal to me. I already know I have no desire to play Trooper. I tend to favor the Sith/Empire/Dark Side, so being a grunt in the Republic Army is just.....yea. So that's why if I'm gonna play a non force class, it'll probably be IA. Plus the IA story keeps getting rave reviews round here.
Nobody expects the Sith Inquisition!
Guild: Imperial Army.
Darth (Markos) Solrac: LV 50, Dark Sith Sorcerer.
Draykos Solrac: LV 29, Dark grey Jedi Guardian.

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Stenrik
03.21.2012 , 11:19 AM | #4
Are you using "grunt" to refer to smuggler as well? Because I disagree about that.

Story-wise, smugglers start out as only looking out for themselves, screw the Republic (in general, you can play pro-republic if you want). In later levels, they become operatives/privateers. They do special, spy-type assignments and work for gangsters too, gaining a reputation in the underworld. Along the way, they get the chance to screw over the republic for their own desires if they want. Does that sound like a "Republic grunt" to you?

I understand if you prefer dark side, though why constrain yourself to one faction?
I think the most fun is going against the grain of whatever faction you're on (light side empire or dark side Republic, or neutral for either). I think people who constrain themselves to only one faction are limiting themselves needlessly in terms of setting and story.


Regarding troopers, you may be right that you wouldn't like it, but... playing a dark side trooper is hellafun. I have one.

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Darth_Solrac
03.21.2012 , 11:22 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Stenrik View Post
Are you using "grunt" to refer to smuggler as well? Because I disagree about that.

Story-wise, smugglers start out as only looking out for themselves, screw the Republic (in general, you can play pro-republic if you want). In later levels, they become operatives/privateers. They do special, spy-type assignments and work for gangsters too, gaining a reputation in the underworld. Along the way, they get the chance to screw over the republic for their own desires if they want. Does that sound like a "Republic grunt" to you?

I understand if you prefer dark side, though why constrain yourself to one faction?
I think the most fun is going against the grain of whatever faction you're on (light side empire or dark side Republic). I think people who constrain themselves to only one faction are limiting themselves needlessly in terms of setting and story.
No no, I mean grunt for Trooper specifically, Republic military in general. I do also plan rolling a LS Sith Warrior or DS Jedi Knight next. Aint decided on which yet.
Nobody expects the Sith Inquisition!
Guild: Imperial Army.
Darth (Markos) Solrac: LV 50, Dark Sith Sorcerer.
Draykos Solrac: LV 29, Dark grey Jedi Guardian.

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hadoken
03.21.2012 , 12:15 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Solrac View Post
Just ceases being like SW to me. I may try IA tho. Agree?
Agree with what? That non jedi aren't star wars? I disagree with that, that issue is in your head.

IA has a good story but they have no lightsabers, so if lightsabers = star wars you're in for disappointment.

Ironically IA is the only class that doesn't really have a movie persona you can identify them with, so it's curious you pick that one of the others available.

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Stenrik
03.21.2012 , 12:20 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
Ironically IA is the only class that doesn't really have a movie persona you can identify them with, so it's curious you pick that one of the others available.
He explained that above after I asked the same thing. And also why he wouldn't want to play trooper.
But not why smuggler or bounty hunter aren't an option, so I dunno.

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Jenzali
03.21.2012 , 12:40 PM | #8
I too thought I wouldn't have any desire to play a non-Force user. Then I rolled a trooper and smuggler, and now have no interest in playing Jedi/Sith other than my Sith Warrior because his lightside story is awesome.

It's probably just personal preference, but there's more of an "everyman" feel when playing the non-Force users and it's very easy to identify with your character. A lot of the dialogue alignment-changing options also made me step back and really consider which option to choose, rather than just being your typical Jedi black-and-white options, where you can basically only save or kill someone.

It's really engaging to play any alignment, light, dark, neutral, or anything in between for all the non-Force users, while playing a darkside Jedi Consular, clearly wasn't intended and ends up being ridiculously lame story-wise. It's also all the more awesome being just another guy with a gun, fighting your way to the top and taking out people much more powerful than you with your advanced tech and cunning. Always being "the chosen one" in every Jedi/Sith story gets a little tiring.

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Achromatis
03.21.2012 , 05:15 PM | #9
Play the game "Republic Commando", then youll see why Troopers are awesome

Agents are a lot of fun though if you play one go Operative because a Sniper just does not fit the majority of the story IMO, theres a lot of 007 in there(which is why Im still pissed about not being able to use Pistols).

The glowstick classes didnt have much draw to me initially just because Id already played so much KOTOR, so it was a kind of been there done that already thing. But I really like my Jugghead, the animations fit well(as opposed to a Guardian, whose animations are kind of... eh).
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Canis_Anubis
03.21.2012 , 05:29 PM | #10
Yah, I'm having a LOT more fun with my Agent than my Juggernaut, just because your power level feels a lot more appropriate with the challenges you're facing. My Juggernaut just doesn't feel amazing enough to live up to the Jedi that the movies show. For the agent, expectations are naturally lower, which makes the class feel, ironically, more powerful.