p2p vs f2p

Cosmetic only cash shop sure. Anything else? Nope. 15$ per month is nothing for the amount of stuff to do in the game.

If BW bring in items which help statistics for cash. Ill be gone and im sure most of my guild will move on. If its cosmetic, and if BW save all the best looking stuff for a microtransaction shop. Ill be gone and im sure most of my guild will leave.

If we pay a sub, which we do. We should be entitiled to everything BW create for this game.

To many companies have started this MT thing and now save all the best stuff for the MT shops. In my opinion in an MMO were people pay a sub, this is wrong.

Some aren't sneaky, they are rather blatant....like Evony

I believe BioWare will do it newly. They new we are paying 15 dollars a month and that is all we are going to pay. For large content updates AND expansions getting downloaded via launcher. I believe BioWare when they say they may not charge for expansions THAT would be AWESOME!

Or City of Heroes.

One week before Freedom:

"Oh sorry, players we can't have hoverboard powers. The game just doesn't work like that!"

Two days into the Paragon Market:

"NEW HOVERBOARD TRAVEL POWER! ALL IT COSTS IS 800 PARAGON POINTS OR ROUGHLY TEN DOLLARS! YAY!"

-_-

I hate City of Heroes.

you mean NCsoft in general.

NCsoft : (aion)no we will never have 100% socket items in store
2 weeks later : 100% socket mana stone bundles in ncsoft store

Ncsoft : (aion) no we never will have pay to win items in store
next week : buff foods, reset instance time scrolls in store

Above was when it was a pay 2 play model : now it went f2p and it's gotten worse.

I alway have the feeling of being cheated on f2p-games. The p2p system actually feel cheaper money-wise (may not be, but feels that way), and being able to acess all functions whenever you want, instead of having to buy them, is a great plus for me.

So, no, I like the p2p system better.

Well that depends on what could be bought with real money. Let's put it like this, my interest in GW2 is a lot lower since I heard about the microtransaction and the "timesavers" you'll be able to buy. Not to mention the fact that f2p games generally keep the development pace for new content a lot slower than p2p games.

Pay to win? no thanks.

This is where everyone who focus's on PvP ends up in every game, and there is no way to retain them as a customer.

Partly because, buying a game marketed on storyline, dialog, and personal choice then expecting a PvP centered environment for PvP is less than wise, and people who are less than wise usually have lower attention spans.

But mostly because PvP gets boring fast no matter what you do with it. It all ends up being the same encounters, with the same challenges against the same combinations of character classes after a while, and obviously they get bored and move on.

Sorry to derail the thread.

I've enjoyed a couple of F2P models, such as STO and DCUO, but I wouldn't sink loads of time or money into them. I've spent money on both games, but only for content. Ok, I bought costumes in STO. Shoot me. And a ship. But the pay to play ships arnt even OP. The free max level ships come out better in alot of ways. I just wanted to look like a bawler.

In DCUO i've bought ever expansion. But they have done it right. so far there is very little pay for power short of lockboxes. Even though I still have 4k cash shop ponts (enough for 4 more expansions) and every mini content update paid for, I wont buy keys to lockboxes. Cause that's just lame.

It can be done wrong (battle of the immortals) and it can be done right (star trek online still provides free content updates along with its cosmetic cash shop offerings).

So... im not really sure.