1.2 Hard Mode loot. Why raid when you can just run dailies?

Hey guys, I just stood in an Op with my buddies and pressed a few buttons for about an hour or so, check out this phat loot I got!

Hey guys, I spent the last week grinding out mobs and quests so I could pick up this one piece of gear from the vendor that doesn't give me a set bonus but has the same rating as the stuff that guy got out of his Op for not standing in fire (Though lets be honest, he stood in the fire) and killing a Boss in 4 minutes with 15 other people.

Now here's the tricky part...If you assume the average raider spends 6 hours a week raiding, and the average Solo player spends 2 hours a night grinding we'll say 5 times a week, work that math out for me and tell me who actually put in more work for the gear...

6 hours =/= 10 hours. And no, you are not the majority, some of us like raiding for raiding, not because we got PHAT LOOT.

Get over it, Solo players and PVP players work just as hard if not harder for there loot as Raiders do. Dont think so? Go ahead roll a new character dont raid and see how quickly you gear out...I guarantee it wont be as fast as you can by slaying digital dragons...

It's like you guys can't read or something.

First of all BH comms from raids will only come from NiM current raids and the new operation that is being released, which is more difficult than current hard mode raids. So raiders will have to be competant and work with 7-15 other people to acquire them.

YOU ONLY GET 6 PER WEEK BY DOING DAILIES

YOU ONLY GET 6 PER WEEK BY DOING DAILIES

YOU ONLY GET 6 PER WEEK BY DOING DAILIES

YOU ONLY GET 6 PER WEEK BY DOING DAILIES

YOU ONLY GET 6 PER WEEK BY DOING DAILIES

YOU ONLY GET 6 PER WEEK BY DOING DAILIES

Please read the above and realize how long it will take to get any BH comm gear by doing dailies and end this stupid *** thread.

LOL 3 button DPS, take sentinel/marauder and tell me about the 3 buttons

erm, for the fun of it?

I can't understand why raiders think they deserve exclusive access to the best end game gear. As a long time WoW and Rift raider I just don't see that raiding is very difficult. Raiding is just spending time grinding out scripted content with a group of people. Raiding is a traditional mmo time sink no different than token grinds and pvp so why do "hardcore raiders" believe their playstyle is more deserving?

I also don't understand why so many raiders get butthurt at the thought of a differnt mmo time sink provided the same rewards. If someone wants to grind for gear in a different manner than you choose why do you care? It's not like raiding is hard.

Raid gear is for...Raiders and ofc its supposed to be the best PVE gear out there...

solo players getting raid gear is just stupidity..... if you cant see this then maybee you shouldnt play a "MMO" a solo game "singel player" should fit you more... Geez...

its like i should deemand getting top pvp gear for killing lowbies...

this should be easy.

If you want top pve gear...go raid...

if you want top pvp gear...pvp more...

You dont understand the game at all!

PvP = expertise ( Expertise should give more stats in PvP and more defense... making PvE gear less strong and useless )

PvE raider = Big boss, big challenge... Very hard content. They need bigger stats solo.

PvE solo = Small challenge, not great fight, they have a puppet that follow them. They need to make their pet a little stronger, they dont really need great stats because the content is easy.


I dont understand why they give to solo player that dosent want to group, that dont want to do the big fight the same gear.

I dont understand why PvE gear is better then PvP gear in PvP! Also why a new player should get the same gear as someone that take a long time to get is gear, work hard to get it??? It make no sens! Casual gamer should do casual stuff, get casual gear... Raider should get raider gear and PvPer should get PvP gear... Each type of gear should be very diffrent.

I think the better question to ask is, why run dallies when you can just run ops? Seriously, who wants to do daily quests they are boring as ****.

This post is still going? holy crap this seems so obvious to me lol if you want to have fun and get gear, raid. If you want to just get gear and run around with it, do dailies. This is not a question of who deserves what or who worked harder for what, because the bottom line is that this is a freaking game, and your thinking way too much into it. I do enough work during the day im not concerned about the freaking morals of who deserves what in terms of gear is an mmo, I mean that is just simply amazing that someone would think that much into it.

I don't see why people have a hard time with such a simple concept. PVE Epics should not be handed out. Raiding epics should come from raiding, PVP epics from PvP'n. Neither from dailies.

I bet all those people trolling around saying that Raiders shouldn't be upset would have a much different outlook if they gave away PVP top tier for running around face-rolling a few mobs everyday, and then crushing them in WZ's.

I agree raiding should be fun with friends. I also think that if you don't put in the time and effort, you should\t get the reward.

Give the non pvp, non raiders some social gear. That's what they are. social players.