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To many abilities - piano playing must be reduced...

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SnowKidd
03.16.2012 , 08:37 AM | #251
I am playing juggernount too , but i disagree with u for what is to u vicious slash at vengance spec , for what is sweeping slash ? (easy interupt one by one in wz capturing planting etc with single target what is doing better dmg ) savage kick ? there is so many abilities what u dont use as vengance spec i am using only 15 abilities and thats not so much rage using 1/2 of those and immortal around 10

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Scotland
03.16.2012 , 08:42 AM | #252
dunno, but isn't the 1.5 second GCD long enough for you move to a different keybind ?

or do you need longer?

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Rolzhard
03.16.2012 , 08:50 AM | #253
Its called skill bloat. And this game absolutely does suffer from it. And people who equate an excess of skills with skill are just being fatuous. OP is making an absolutely valid point. Not that BW is going to reverse any of this but it is a little silly.

Note to BW: huh?

Even with a Naga Mouse and an Anansi keyboard I run out of keys. I don't like using modifiers with core skills and with a juggie they're all core skills?

You're playing a game not conducting a concerto. Its a pain in the butt tbh.
Look into my eyes.

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BrutalPain
03.16.2012 , 09:02 AM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by SnowKidd View Post
I am playing juggernount too , but i disagree with u for what is to u vicious slash at vengance spec , for what is sweeping slash ? (easy interupt one by one in wz capturing planting etc with single target what is doing better dmg ) savage kick ? there is so many abilities what u dont use as vengance spec i am using only 15 abilities and thats not so much rage using 1/2 of those and immortal around 10
Vicious slash is one of the biggest white attack you can do if the target HP>30%(besides talent skills). When you plant a bomb and you want to interupt the deactivating 4-5 enemy by using 5gcd to interupt them with single target hits? Cause when i played last time it was like 2sec to edactivate a bomb. I interupt all of them with sweeping slash in 1gcd.
Ofc you dont use savage kick as it is not usable on players so i dont even mention it. I dont use heals in PVP neither as it is not usable as a jugg.
So you use 8ability as a rage jugg. It must be charge, force crush, force choke, scream, scmash, force push, enrage and obliterate. These are needed to use as a rage spec to get big smash.
So you dont use any rage builder(there are 3more), you dont use vicious throw if enemy is under 30% you dont use intercede to leap a friendly target, you dont use the white attacks like retaliation, no use of taunts, no cc like AOE mezz or AOE slow, no relics adrenals, no defensive cds.
You must be a good player sir.

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RoyFokker
03.16.2012 , 03:12 PM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by MuNieK View Post
You dont get it... I DONT want to be piano player. I will rather be PC player with mouse and comfy set of keybinds.
You don't get it, you make it sound as if most of the classes out there require phalangial agility of the highest order, but that isn't the case. You need to get better and stop crying.

Quote: Originally Posted by Rolzhard View Post
Its called skill bloat. And this game absolutely does suffer from it. And people who equate an excess of skills with skill are just being fatuous. OP is making an absolutely valid point. Not that BW is going to reverse any of this but it is a little silly.

Note to BW: huh?

Even with a Naga Mouse and an Anansi keyboard I run out of keys. I don't like using modifiers with core skills and with a juggie they're all core skills?

You're playing a game not conducting a concerto. Its a pain in the butt tbh.
You're doing it wrong.

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SnowKidd
03.16.2012 , 04:51 PM | #256
try to read again and then post something man.
Vicious slash isnt vicious throw

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yukirshiro
03.16.2012 , 04:53 PM | #257
Just be glad this game isn't nearly as bad as EQ2, where practically every single skill has a short cooldown and you have at least 5-10 abilities that essentially all do the exact same thing that you just have to cycle through.

For an MMO that was just released this game does have too much skill bloat though. I don't know what they are going to do for expansions because realistically they can't introduce more skills without it becoming absurd. Right now the skill bloat feels like an MMO with 3+ expansions, not a newly released one. Vanilla wow had probably 8 less abilities on a level 50 than swtor does.

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Serafeth
03.16.2012 , 04:59 PM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by Spetzel View Post
Naga Mouse.
No...no. apparantly you need more windex on your stardestroyer.
"If Halcy Dont Have It, Maybe You Dont Need It? "

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Internicio
03.16.2012 , 05:29 PM | #259
I agree with the OP.

There are too many skills and not enough reasons to use your brain in SWTOR pvp.

I wouldn't call it "mindless piano" playing, but it's too close to that for my liking.

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BrutalPain
03.16.2012 , 05:36 PM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by SnowKidd View Post
try to read again and then post something man.
Vicious slash isnt vicious throw
You said Vicious slash. And I said vicious slash.
This is how i started my post: "Vicious slash is". Cant see the problem.