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To many abilities - piano playing must be reduced...

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AstralProjection
03.15.2012 , 06:23 AM | #151
One of the things I love about MMORPG's is the "Piano Playing"...one of the reasons I hate ability macroing. But then again, Piano's one of the instruments I play so maybe it helps/has something to do with it.

My favorite part about the Sentinel class is the sheer amount of keybinds I have to use to succeed. It gives a lot of room for variation in skill level.

When you can break down the most powerful way to play a class into a few simple moves everyone you play starts to feel the same. Makes it more boring for me as a PVPer.
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Scudmungus
03.15.2012 , 06:29 AM | #152
I too like 'piano playing'.

Finding the right keybind layout that feels
intuitive is a continual process of refinement.

It's a challenge, one that I relish.

I also enjoy UI customisation but alas...

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wtfnonamefree
03.15.2012 , 06:44 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by BrutalPain View Post
Just wondering what are u guys bind to 40+buttons? I just counted all the marauder abilities(you always say that marauders use the most keys) and its 36 so with biochem stuffs and relics its 40. And i counted every usable abilities, and ofc you shouldnt keybind many of them. I counted channel hatre, buffs, every form, every ability what you get from 31/31/31 talent.
Those are my 47 binds. There are even more, if you count things as 'follow', 'walk toggle', character sheet, etc.

I use them all frequently (except for the abilities with parentheses) and I'd miss any bind, really.

1 - recklessness
2 - force shroud
3 - deflection
4 - mark of power
5 - sprint (only for datacron jump'n'run)
6 - endurance stim
7 - willpower stim
q - jolt
e - overload
a+q - unbreakable will
a+e - electrocute
r - stealth
a+r - force cloak
s+r - blackout
c - force speed
y - mount (german keyboard layout)
n1 - thrash
a+n1 - saber strike
n2 - lacerate
a+n2 - maul (very seldom, if at all)
n3 - shock
a+n3 - assassinate
s+n3 - force lightning
4 - discharge
a+n4 - spike
n5 - dark ward (for PvE)
a+n5 - overcharge saber
n6 - mind control
a+n6 - mass mind control
s+n6 - guard
n7 - rakata medpack
a+n7 - power relic
s+n7 - wz medpack
n8 - expertise adrenal
a+n8 - absorb relic (for PvE)
s+n8 - rakata power adrenal (to double dip with expertise pickup)
n9 - seethe
n10 - mind trap
n11 - companion passive
n12 - pass huttball
m3 - wither
a+m3 - force pull
s+m3 - crushing darkness (only used in hybrid spec)
m4 - dark surge
m5 - lightning surge
f - whirlwind
a+f - force slow

(n=naga button)
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monimoni
03.15.2012 , 06:55 AM | #154
I agree 100%

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BrutalPain
03.15.2012 , 07:06 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by wtfnonamefree View Post
Those are my 47 binds. There are even more, if you count things as 'follow', 'walk toggle', character sheet, etc.

I use them all frequently (except for the abilities with parentheses) and I'd miss any bind, really.

1 - recklessness
2 - force shroud
3 - deflection
4 - mark of power
5 - sprint (only for datacron jump'n'run)
6 - endurance stim
7 - willpower stim
q - jolt
e - overload
a+q - unbreakable will
a+e - electrocute
r - stealth
a+r - force cloak
s+r - blackout
c - force speed
y - mount
n1 - thrash
a+n1 - saber strike
n2 - lacerate
a+n2 - maul (very seldom, if at all)
n3 - shock
a+n3 - assassinate
s+n3 - force lightning
4 - discharge
a+n4 - spike
n5 - dark ward (for PvE)
a+n5 - overcharge saber
n6 - mind control
a+n6 - mass mind control
s+n6 - guard
n7 - rakata medpack
a+n7 - power relic
s+n7 - wz medpack
n8 - expertise adrenal
a+n8 - absorb relic (for PvE)
s+n8 - rakata power adrenal (to double dip with expertise pickup)
n9 - seethe
n10 - mind trap
n11 - companion passive
n12 - pass huttball
m3 - wither
a+m3 - force pull
s+m3 - crushing darkness (only used in hybrid spec)
m4 - dark surge
m5 - lightning surge
f - whirlwind
a+f - force slow

(n=naga button)


S ofrom that 47 keybind you use 38, and i think charges, seethe dont realy need to be keybinded as you use them out of combat, and if you dont need crushing darkness it shouldnt realy need to keybind. Its 34 skill thats why i cant see who is useing 40+keybinds effectively.

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Faat
03.15.2012 , 07:28 AM | #156
I'm against dumbing down the game.

As it is there's plenty enough easy classes to play. Just don't roll an harder one and then ask to have a 1 button main rotation with a few extra skills. Instead, you can roll a commando / sage or their Empire counterparts and spam spam spam 'till your finger bleeds.

This game is too easy to begin with.

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Crazylor
03.15.2012 , 07:41 AM | #157
Remove keybinds and implement voice commands, anything to require less interaction and make the game boring will work!
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Groncho
03.15.2012 , 07:47 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotland View Post
It would.

Pressing buttons is hard.
I am a clicker
I want macros
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Olympic
03.15.2012 , 07:51 AM | #159
You can always just build your own rotation and not use certain abilities. Remove them from your toolbar and set yourself free...

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wtfnonamefree
03.15.2012 , 08:24 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by BrutalPain View Post
S ofrom that 47 keybind you use 38, and i think charges, seethe dont realy need to be keybinded as you use them out of combat, and if you dont need crushing darkness it shouldnt realy need to keybind. Its 34 skill thats why i cant see who is useing 40+keybinds effectively.
How do you end up with that number?

I have 47 abilities bound.

1 is used only for exploring (sprint on/off).

2 of them are used only, when I spec differently. (maul & crushing darkness).

2 of them are PvE only. (absorb relic & dark ward).

1+2+2=5

47-5=42

42=/=38 (btw, following your own logic - 38-2=/=34...)

Still, I do use 47. Only because I do not use them in every single aspect of a game or 24/7 doesn't equal not using them.
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