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How to kill soa in hardmode?


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seektravota
03.12.2012 , 03:26 AM | #1
Hey guys,
Soa in HM is extremely hard, considering the bugs, luck-factor and the coordination of team movement.

we tried at first everybody stay in center, only those who are named by lightning balls go out and eat them; then we tried everybody stay in west. What strategy are you guys using?

How do you position your team on the 2nd platform? and what's the mechanics you guys use?
Once you get to ground floor, how do you position yourselves? when tank is kiting soa to pillars, how you guys organize dodging lightning balls etc?

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Afflikcija
03.12.2012 , 03:38 AM | #2
maby you will find answers in youtube

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LordZanos
03.12.2012 , 03:57 AM | #3
We've had general success with keeping people in the middle, but haven't actually got through the entire fight yet due to some of the bugs(invisible lightning ball kills healer through the floor after stage 2, platforms randomly not where they should be after stage 2, etc.)

The damage on the balls is pretty hard to deal with, but I'd generally say that keeping people in the middle is a viable strategy as long as everyone knows how to deal with theirs.

If that strategy doesn't seem viable, you probably need to gear up your group more.

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Kaelano
03.12.2012 , 03:59 AM | #4
There IS a luck factor but only in 1 of 2 attempts. Yes, a person can be tossed right after eating a ball or dropped from tossed right into a ball. This is how you should spend your 1 rez. Yes, Soa can bug-out and reset when almost dead. This is something BW needs to fix.

The rest of the fight is practice, practice, practice... focus, pay attention, look for cues, and some more focus. There is a learning curve. Once you have beaten him and seen it done it becomes very easy.

Some people may never "get it" because they aren't articulate or focused enough to make good on the "lucky" half of attempts. Sorry, but these people are bad and should stick to alts.

Edit: the factor with keeping people in the middle is only really important with 2 sage/sorc healers to maximize efficiency of ae heals. That is your answer to that part of the question.

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Magnesium
03.12.2012 , 04:24 AM | #5
Awareness is critical and using your own survival skills when taking the hit from the Lightning Balls. Some use the visual of the balls but they have a nasty AOE but I personally find using the minimap as a critical element so you can easily move away from a ball if it is going close to the middle or where you are located on the 3rd phase. *(speaking as someone who has done it in NTM).

Group makeup can also control how much damage you take as Sages Bubble are really useful.

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seektravota
03.12.2012 , 04:41 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by LordZanos View Post
We've had general success with keeping people in the middle, but haven't actually got through the entire fight yet due to some of the bugs(invisible lightning ball kills healer through the floor after stage 2, platforms randomly not where they should be after stage 2, etc.)

The damage on the balls is pretty hard to deal with, but I'd generally say that keeping people in the middle is a viable strategy as long as everyone knows how to deal with theirs.

If that strategy doesn't seem viable, you probably need to gear up your group more.
everybody in my group is full columni and 2-3 pieces of rakata if they wish to put on. still find this fight very hard.

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gunte
03.12.2012 , 07:19 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by seektravota View Post
everybody in my group is full columni and 2-3 pieces of rakata if they wish to put on. still find this fight very hard.
This is how we did it om HM. For phase 2 and 3 we grouped up in the middle, lightning balls are priority 1 THE ENTIRE FIGHT AT ALL TIMES. This next sentence is VERY important: *Everybody panned the camera every now and then to see where the lightning balls spawn (you can tell by the small pyramids they start to glow).* We called out the names on TS right away when the lightning balls spawned and those people got sage shields and ran to their lightning. If your having trouble knowing which balls belong to who, have one person running left and one right from the group in the middle. Mindtraps are priority 2 after lightning. When we were close to 35% we made sure no one was flying and lightning balls gone before DPSing to the next phase.

At phase 3 lightning is still 100 % first priority even when Soas shield is down. Group up in the middle and look around for the flying pillars that remove his shields, call out pillars and lightning on TS. When soas shield is down mind traps are seconday to DPSing Soa.

Its all about control in this fight, Soa was enraged for quite a long time but it doesnt matter he doesnt hurt, the lightnings are the problem and if you make sure you focus on them at all times it should be easier.
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_Zorth_
03.12.2012 , 07:27 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by seektravota View Post
everybody in my group is full columni and 2-3 pieces of rakata if they wish to put on. still find this fight very hard.
Then it's your communication that is lacking, People maybe have bad reaction time in your group and don't know what to do every second of the fight. I did EV HM with my alt that is tionese geared, We had 3 people in full columi, rest where in blues/tionese. We just knew the fight very well and knew what to do, and we had luck ofc.

As for the geared part, Are you talking about purple items on the right side of your character sheet, Wit implants & relics being green/blue or is everything purple?

Because if your group truly is that well geared then it's your communication that is terrible, or people in your group have bad experience with the fight.
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Kakachan
03.12.2012 , 07:35 AM | #9
stay in the middle even you can stay on top of boss, who ever got lightning ball (for example, first name go left, second name go right when runing to balls) just run out fast and take his ball, it can target someone else sometimes, dont let anyone sleep in raid, if somone see a ball coming to group just run away a little, with a little practice it is not hard

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Xneco
03.12.2012 , 07:35 AM | #10
First thing to do for Soa is going into settings and increase camera range. A wider view of the area helps with situational awareness.

In phase 2... Need to make sure no one tracks their Ball Lightning thru the middle. Everyone that gets tossed in the air lands in the middle. If a Ball is there when they land, they usually die.

Don't transition to P3 with someone in the air. That person will die and you will not be able to battle rez.

If you are below 30% health, pop a medpack/and or heal yourself(dps sorc/merc/op).... don't wait for a heal. Getting tossed in the air at low health = death.

Make sure Sorcs are putting a bubble on people before they pop their Ball Lightning. Again, low health + tossed in air = death. Don't want anyone to get low.

As far a positioning for phase 2, more then one strat works... just make sure everyone understands that Ball Lightnings spawn only from the 4 outside pylons to the east.
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