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Carnage. Crit/Surge or Power?


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Darth_YaMama
03.11.2012 , 09:21 PM | #1
I can't seem to get a straight answer here.

It seems like everyone agrees that power is better so should I just stack power and ignore crit/surge or get Crit/surge to the soft cap (30% i think) and then stack power?

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Xerain
03.12.2012 , 12:11 AM | #2
for pvp or pve?

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Darth_YaMama
03.12.2012 , 12:44 AM | #3
Pve. I dont do very much pvp so far

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Shatterstar
03.12.2012 , 01:46 AM | #4
I would suggest crit/surge to cap (or at least surge) and then power. You can talent force scream to auto-crit, but the crit% will help your ataru procs to crit.

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Zaxem
03.12.2012 , 08:18 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_YaMama View Post
I can't seem to get a straight answer here.

It seems like everyone agrees that power is better so should I just stack power and ignore crit/surge or get Crit/surge to the soft cap (30% i think) and then stack power?
What i tend to do is have all my enchantment slots with crit/surge and mod slots go for power
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EasymodeX
03.12.2012 , 08:20 AM | #6
There is no such thing as a softcap for crit or surge.
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Garroda
03.12.2012 , 11:59 AM | #7
Max Surge first, then focus on power. With decent gear (especially PvP), your crit will be be at 25% just from your strength anyway....for Carnage you dont need more than that.

Getting Big Force Scream hits is really your primary goal. So in order of importance at level 50:

Surge to 70%
Power as much as you can get
Crit to 25%
Accuracy to 100%

Keep in mind that Strength is essentially a 2 for 1 (+Damage +Crit)
The same holds true for Rage and smash hits.

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EasymodeX
03.12.2012 , 12:14 PM | #8
Str is 1.1 for 1.

1 str = .91 pow
1 str = .19 crit rating, before DR
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TradeLA
03.12.2012 , 01:36 PM | #9
Crit bonus vs. surge chart:

http://www.jedilace.com/2012/02/01/w...for-digestion/

People have varying opinions about how much surge is too much, but seems to pretty much fall in the 150-250 range, as far I've seen. If your crit multiplier is 70.98 percent, sounds like you have too much surge in your implants.

I don't know why anyone is recommending under 100% accuracy endgame. Most guides I have read suggest 108-110% is best for endgame bosses. The Mach 5 guide and this one for instance...

http://swtorhumanrelations.com/2012/...arauder-guide/

...seem to agree. Check out the section about "the accuracy debate".

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Garroda
03.12.2012 , 02:00 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by TradeLA View Post
I don't know why anyone is recommending under 100% accuracy endgame.
I don't see anyone recommending accuracy UNDER 100%. I did say get it to 100%.

I stand by that Surge 70% > Accuracy 100%. After those numbers, the debate will continue... I would not recommend going under 100% accuracy to get 70.5% Surge.
In fact, after 70% Surge, I would argue gains in accuracy would be preferred...but not over gains in power.