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Who is Sifo-Dyas?


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Toonimator
03.13.2012 , 12:19 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
You don't even really need to read the books to figure it out.
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Sifo-Dyas orders the clone army.

Dooku leaves the jedi order to join Sidious(this makes it clear that Dooku was once a jedi, seeing as Yoda said "my old padawan.")

Dooku kills Sifo, and Sidious uses his name to produce the clone army.

It isn't that hard to figure it out yourself, I got it all figured after watching the movie.
Nowhere in the films does it even hint that Dooku kills Sifo, tho. That's all outside the movies, which is why I called it a plot hole. If LoE was required reading for ROTS, then LoE should've been part of ROTS. It would've worked better if they'd just left it Sido-Dyas, or introduced Sifo-Dyas in Episode I, or just had Qui-Gon be the name of the guy ordering the clones. But I suppose Sido-Dyas and Qui-Gon would've just tipped the Jedi off that the clones were a Sith plot, since Dooku tells Obi-Wan of 'Darth Sidious' at the end, and Obi-Wan knew Qui-Gon well enough to know he hadn't gone to Kamino to order clones.

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Wolfninjajedi
03.13.2012 , 12:22 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Toonimator View Post
Nowhere in the films does it even hint that Dooku kills Sifo, tho. That's all outside the movies, which is why I called it a plot hole. If LoE was required reading for ROTS, then LoE should've been part of ROTS. It would've worked better if they'd just left it Sido-Dyas, or introduced Sifo-Dyas in Episode I, or just had Qui-Gon be the name of the guy ordering the clones. But I suppose Sido-Dyas and Qui-Gon would've just tipped the Jedi off that the clones were a Sith plot, since Dooku tells Obi-Wan of 'Darth Sidious' at the end, and Obi-Wan knew Qui-Gon well enough to know he hadn't gone to Kamino to order clones.
It does say however that Sifo was killed, so seeing as Dooku was a former jedi turned sith. You could put two and two together, and come to the conclusion that Dooku killed Sifo.
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Hokonoso
03.13.2012 , 12:26 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
It does say however that Sifo was killed, so seeing as Dooku was a former jedi turned sith. You could put two and two together, and come to the conclusion that Dooku killed Sifo.
i agree, it's not a plothole, but they pretty much did say those books were mandatory reading for the movie, else they would not have come out a week before the movie release date! movies always have holes in the sense that they only have 2.5 hrs to tell a tale that takes 10 hours to read, so so much is left out of movies that only someone who doesnt care about story at all would just watch the movie and call it a day, anytime a movie/book combo is out i always read the book if i saw the movie first and liked it, books are always so so much better...
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Wolfninjajedi
03.13.2012 , 12:31 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
i agree, it's not a plothole, but they pretty much did say those books were mandatory reading for the movie, else they would not have come out a week before the movie release date! movies always have holes in the sense that they only have 2.5 hrs to tell a tale that takes 10 hours to read, so so much is left out of movies that only someone who doesnt care about story at all would just watch the movie and call it a day, anytime a movie/book combo is out i always read the book if i saw the movie first and liked it, books are always so so much better...
Well obviously, books are always better then the movie because of two things. Btw when have they said, that the books were mandatory?

1. Books are not limited by a budget, in what they can and cannot do.

2. More information can be given, because the book isn't on a time slot in which it has to be cut.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.