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nadim's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 01:01 PM | #1
So it seems like nobody ever mentions the carnage spec; just how you should go annihilate and not rage for marauders. I personally choose to go carnage from the beginning because of that sticky forum ( describing the specs and said it was good. I enjoy it and regularly place very high in PVP. I am 44 so I understand things have high potential to change when I am 50...

All that being said my (Q) is whether or not it is still a commonly held belief to not go carnage for a marauder?

I do hope not.

Adill's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 01:10 PM | #2
I've been carnage since day 1 and I haven't even considered switching specs. It's good for pve and pvp. I've done all the hm flashpoints about a dozen times each and have done the ops on nightmare mode, and I consistently rank in the top dmg in pvp (unless I spend most of a round defending a node not being attacked). Play whichever spec you enjoy.

kainsec's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 01:25 PM | #3
Play what you enjoy and what works for you. For me Anni works better in damage, utility, and survivability. Partially bc I hate hate hate hate specs that rely on procs off of procs and partially bc I don't like the limited windows of opportunity for my big damage.

However, if Carnage works well for you more power to you. I do hope update 1.2 gives carnage something over Anni (probably damage due to the number of survival talents in Anni)
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Aluvi's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 01:40 PM | #4
Try them all and come to a conclusion yourself, although debating over it before you are 50 with some gear is kind of pointless, too much changes in the last 5-10 levels.

As for me, Annihilation spec is hands down better in every way. Show me a Carnage Marauder at 50 with gear that can push 600-700k dmg in a warzone. That is the reality of what I can hit doing pure single target dps as Annihilation. Of course, that isn't the norm, but I nearly always break 450k, if not 500k.

I also heal myself + party members.

Currently I feel that the big hitters in Carnage spec do not do enough damage, considering that the spec has little in the way of dots. You can call the Ataru form hits similar to the dots that Annihilation spec gets, however in my experience the Anni spec dots hit for much much harder.

To me, PvP without my anni bleeds + the heals they give me + my team is like fighting with 1 arm behind my back. That is how carnage feels, fighting like a 1 armed man.

Do what you want, but I see full BM geared Carnage Marauders pushing a paltry 250-300k dmg in warzones, while I hit 500k-600k regularly with mostly champion gear. Maybe they just really suck, and I'm just really good, but double the damage on a regular basis?

doromleynek's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 04:17 PM | #5
Carnage is amazing for PvP. You get enough snares in PvP to make sure your target doesn't run away easily.

xDreegan's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 09:24 PM | #6
I prefer Carnage because I don't really enjoy keeping up DoTs. I like all my damage upfront and in your face. Within a team and especially in huttball a Carnage Marauder can lock down a ball-carrier pathetically easy.

Just remember. Don't get mad if you can't kill someone. There's 8 classes for a reason. We -can- kill pretty much anyone, but were not always supposed to.

Chrishowee's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 10:55 PM | #7
How hard does force scream hit in pvp procced at 50?

xDreegan's Avatar

03.08.2012 , 11:09 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrishowee View Post
How hard does force scream hit in pvp procced at 50?
You'll hit anywhere from 3k-5k depending on expertise difference, Execute, Surge rating, and any relics you popped beforehand.

doromleynek's Avatar

03.09.2012 , 12:56 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Chrishowee View Post
How hard does force scream hit in pvp procced at 50?
My opening as carnage, frenzy, bloodthirst,charge,use relic while charging,gore, hopefully pull a form strike and force scream for a huge crit

that's my quick boost into the start of any WZ :3

Anbokr's Avatar

03.09.2012 , 03:04 AM | #10
Carnage is garbage. Gimp yourself or go Annhilation and destroy kids.