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JediElf
03.09.2012 , 01:58 PM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
It is nothing but an ego thing, they want to tell others how they are supposed to play.

You are best to ignore such people, and do what works best for you regardless of what they tell you
Well said.

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Astharothtx
03.09.2012 , 01:58 PM | #362
Ah!


Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Again, missing the point. Aiming and moving a mouse in an fps is entriely different than an mmo. In an fps your mouse is being dragged into the exact environmental sight you need, while on an mmo, by clicking, your eyes drift away from the area and could lead to failures more often than a binder.
Also, you wasted energy typing that entire post... You proposed an argument that was solely based on click speeds... lol.
You know this game has global cooldowns right?
Another thing. I use my mouse to click on spells and also move my camera around+rotate,etc,etc.... so the argument "eyes drift away" / "you backpedal" / "whatever else" simply does not apply just like i use the mouse to move too ..

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Tekkoclarky
03.09.2012 , 01:59 PM | #363
Quote: Originally Posted by XOrionX View Post
How can you control all of the movement with only your mouse? I don't consider myself a newb at all, because I am constantly at the top of the charts for dps/kills/objectives. I currently use the keyboard and mouse for movement and abilities. 1-10 on my number bars the abilities I use left often I have on my second bar and have them keybinded to shift+1-10 but usually I will opt to click them instead.

I use wasd +qe for my movement and will quick turn with my mouse.

Also, I will add if you are a turret class (Mercanary Arsenal for example) you can get away with clicking, you are entirely immobile for the most part.
I don't think anyone is saying don't ever use your keyboard at all to move, a mix is best.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 02:01 PM | #364
Quote: Originally Posted by XOrionX View Post
Strafing is funny. Unless you have your target cc'd an you need to get behind them for a position based skill, strafing is useless. Just turn to follow their movement and stay in place. You will always hit them if you are facing them and targeting them.
And if you're a melee? Or if you want to Los? Or if you are travelling with or with someone to an objective in pvp? Or if you want to move out of an aoe?

Ok, that is enough examples to completely debunk your theory.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 02:02 PM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by Astharothtx View Post
Ah!




Another thing. I use my mouse to click on spells and also move my camera around+rotate,etc,etc.... so the argument "eyes drift away" / "you backpedal" / "whatever else" simply does not apply just like i use the mouse to move too ..
So when you move your mouse to click on spells, you don't look at the spell bar? lol

Try closing your eyes and clicking the right spells and you'll see you have to look thus dragging your eyes away.

Even if it is only for a second, it's a second you would have saved keybinding.

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Galbatorrix
03.09.2012 , 02:03 PM | #366
Quote: Originally Posted by Tekkoclarky View Post
The matter of the fact is this.

Can you be a clicker and be very good at the game? Yes you can.

If you learn and get used to moving with the mouse to move, and get used to using keybinds, can you be an even better player than you already are? Yes, you can.

It is a 100% fact, that say if you are standing in the fire, and the quickest way out is to turn 180 degrees, mouse turning is by far the fastest way out of that situation.

If you are mashing your dps rotation and you are given the roll to interrupt this ability with a 1 second cast time. Good luck doing the best dps possible and interrupting that cast as a clicker.

I'm a clicker and I use my mouse for turning. I use a combo of the mouse and arrow keys. With the GCD, it's not like I have to be super fast when clicking abilities or anything.

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OldBenSmokin
03.09.2012 , 02:03 PM | #367
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
It is nothing but an ego thing, they want to tell others how they are supposed to play.

You are best to ignore such people, and do what works best for you regardless of what they tell you
Oh whatever, quit assuming things about people in this thread. Says alot more about you than it does the people you're trying to dismiss. Has nothing to do with ego and everything to do with experience, staying open to new playstyles, and figuring out what works best.

Thank god your attitude is the minority, otherwise we'd still be in the dark ages.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 02:05 PM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by OldBenSmokin View Post
Oh whatever, quit assuming things about people in this thread. Says alot more about you than it does the people you're trying to dismiss. Has nothing to do with ego and everything to do with experience and staying open to new playstyles.

Thank god your attitude is the minority, otherwise we'd still be in the dark ages.

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Hebrewz
03.09.2012 , 02:06 PM | #369
why do so many people in this thread assume that being a "non-clicker" means that you ONLY MOVE WITH YOUR MOUSE AND NOTHING ELSE??


that's insane!


anyone who says they are a keybinder certainly uses at least 3 movement keys on the keyboard: forward, strafe L and strafe R.

Really, the big thing that separates "clickers" from "keybinders" is that a clicker uses A and D to turn their character while a keybinder uses the right mouse button and strafe to spin his camera while moving.

very few people are ONLY using the mouse to move.

the big difference between binding your skills and clicking them is the ability to use them on the move. You can be moving forward holding down W to do so while strafing left and spinning your camera and hitting a hotkey for an ability.

in other words, you can attack and move your camera while moving forward at a very fast rate.

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Astharothtx
03.09.2012 , 02:08 PM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Again, you really are oblivious to the point. I'm not saying a clicker can't be precise and click relatively quickly, but while they are clicking they lose awareness of the map,
Why? If a clicker needs to keep an eye on the spell bar.. is not a clicker, a clicker can click on spell without looking it. I only need to keep an eye every 10 seconds or so just to remind the state of my cd's.

Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
it makes moving while casting much more difficult,
Again, why? because while u're clicking on a speel u cant rotate the camera / rotate your char? lol, it takes it almost no time and, even, u can continue your move with keyboard while u're not readjusting camera / rotate your char.

Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
and in comparison, every second it takes dragging your mouse to click abilities an entire fight could be saved by binding.
Every second? hhahahah, on a fps a second is to live or to die, so, click on a spell that is FIXED on screen always on the same position... erm.. if someone needs a second to click it for sure he needs another couple of hands

Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
When there is an alternative to something, and the first way has no unique exclusive benefits, wouldn't anyone with half a brain choose the latter method?
That's the point. If u've a guy that rocks with wasd+mouse and he plays without no problem cause for him is no effort to click+move/rotate with mouse.. what's the point with bother again with "keybinder is always best" "go keybinder u backpedaler" "the pr0's 're always keybinders" and so on?

Yeah, that's not a good point. The discussion "keybinder" or "clicker" really does not apply.. maybe the disscusion would be "a bad player is better for being keybinder or for being mouse clicker"? cause a good / medium player can be good with keybinds or clicking (whatever he wants)

My 2 cents.