Sorc/Sage Friendly Pull

No, it definitely is not. Most pug teams see the flashing light of the ball carrier and swarm him. This makes it unbelievably easy for a sorc to run up the opposite side of the catwalk, rescue up the goal line, and receive a free point. This however isn't what I want changed, if you get one rescue that leads to a clever point, fantastic, you've used your ability well. However, if there are 4 sorcs/sages chaining rescues on the ball carrier and scoring within 5 seconds (with no chance of interception) of picking up the ball, that seems a bit broken to me. Also, there are many shortcomings of grapple, like hitting terrain when they're on the arc over to you and negating the effects of the grapple entirely, just as one example.

I'm sure this has been beat to death, but the fact that this is usable on the ball carrier completely breaks Huttball as a warzone. It's an entirely comp dependant warzone at this point, and if you have leaps/team pulls, you instantly have an advantage, not to mention the insane ranged bias that's already present. Either disable these abilities on the ball carrier, or redesign this gimmick of a map.

EDIT: For those that don't read the rest of my posts, I'll just summarize what I believe to be the best way to prevent rescue chain abuse. If there was a debuff placed on the player that was just Rescued, that would not allow the use of rescue on that player for 10-15 seconds. This would allow for a full resolve bar to diminish and give the defending team the possibility of defending past the first pull, as the carrier would either have to pass the ball (and risk the ball getting intercepted or the receiver being pulled/CCed/killed) or try to run it as his resolve bar emptied. Any other ideas that would still leave the ability useful, but still give a tactical edge without being abusable would be greatly appreciated!

It may be core to you, because you were given it from launch day, but the class that the sorc is so obviously designed around functioned without it for years, and the ability was more of an afterthought. I personally don't have a priest to miss, but thanks for taking my wellbeing into consideration. I highly doubt all the keyboard generals that are posting their 'perfect counters' to the situation I originally posted have actually even seen what I was describing, but again, I've come to expect that from people who don't read and tend to just post their ignorance. I agree that this strategy is available to both sides, and this doesn't actually concern me at all because huttball is a FACTION NEUTRAL WARZONE. It all comes down to what group comp you get thrown into, and if that comp doesn't have a few golden classes while the opposition does, you have to pray that they're garbage players or it's almost a guarenteed loss.

To those that will inevitably tell me that I need to get better, that I'm not using everything in my toolset to the best of my ability, that there are many easy ways to counter the scenario I've posted, or any incarnation of the three, you have to realize you've never seen me play, you probably never will see me play, and your judgements are far from wellfounded.

But thanks for posting!

A friendly pull is a unique niche utility for PVE - one that won't make or break any existing raids. In Huttball its *CLEARLY* overpowered. So much so that either it should be given to everyone on a cooldown (similar to how everyone has a 'pass the huttball' ability) or explicitly prevented via a debuff.

The problem with sorc/sage utilities aren't that they are OP by themselves or OP in PVE, the problem is that for PVP they are game breakingly good. Even being able to do it once while then have it on cooldown isn't enough - either it should go to everyone or noone. Things like sprinting to get out of an AOE in PVE isn't game breaking but being able to sprint between capture points or sprint the ball across the goal is overpowered. I don't think handing out sprints via the legacy system is how it should be handled - just disable these abilities in warzones.

how is a friendly pull more overpowered then a hostile pull? or then a hostile leap? or a friendly leap? at the end its all the same.... still ppl only whine about the sorcerers pull... not all the rest. like said before: if you whine you have to remove all of those tools. which leaves us with a very very very boring game. in fact why not remove all classes and all skills. give everyone 1 hp and 1 attack skill that hits for 1. sounds really exciting... yey....

So you're suggesting that we simultaneously kill 4 sages with 15K+ health each, without them popping 1 GCD. The entire chain lasts ~5 seconds and once the first rescue has been launched, it's almost impossible to catch the carrier. Sure, knocking the sorcs who are chaining off is potentially a solution, but it's hard to see the opposing teams composition before the match even starts, so there's no way to tell if they're setting up without leaving someone behind at the catwalk on literally every single match. This may not be a problem to do with a premade, but in pugs it's hard to convince someone that they need to stay out of the action to watch for a potentially gamebreaking play. So many peoples posts end with obvious anger that I'd even bring this up. Why, so, serious?

Huttball is just a piece of crap warzone to begin with. The devs will realize this once we get to pick which warzones we want to do.

The ability itself itsn't the problem. The ability to chain pull, or to be able to pull a player that is full resolve is the problem.

Sorc pulls, we grapple back. Sorc pulls, we grapple back again. Sorc pulls the target at full resolve, we grap... oh wait. Have to sit and watch them score.

If there was a pull cool down debuff or if it emptied the resolve bar of the target, that would help. If you can pull, we can pull back. THAT is fair.

I already ahve a thread started on this topic outlining my ideas:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=323888