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A Primer on the Emperor


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Eightus
10.10.2012 , 10:03 AM | #91
So yesterday I was reading the Old Republic Encyclopedia, which btw is a great book with a massive amount of useful and interesting information, when I stumbled upon an interesting piece of information. Under the Emperor's Voice section, there was a paragraph that stated this:

"The Emperor created his first Voice after the legendary Jedi named Revan attempted to assassinate him on Dromund Kaas. Though Revan's plot failed, he approached within striking distance of the Emperor. To guard against further vulnerability, the Emperor created the Voice to deliver his orders while distancing himself from the forces that conspired against him. Centuries later, this very safeguard would save the Emperor once more."

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Beniboybling
10.10.2012 , 11:27 AM | #92
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So yesterday I was reading the Old Republic Encyclopedia, which btw is a great book with a massive amount of useful and interesting information, when I stumbled upon an interesting piece of information. Under the Emperor's Voice section, there was a paragraph that stated this:

"The Emperor created his first Voice after the legendary Jedi named Revan attempted to assassinate him on Dromund Kaas. Though Revan's plot failed, he approached within striking distance of the Emperor. To guard against further vulnerability, the Emperor created the Voice to deliver his orders while distancing himself from the forces that conspired against him. Centuries later, this very safeguard would save the Emperor once more."
*gasp* I told you it had nuggets of info you couldn't find anywhere else! I can't believe I overlooked this, but to be honest, I wasn't that much interested in the Emperor's power base section. (by the way, I'm glad your enjoying the book). Hmmm, so this means that the Emperor is in fact sith, to be fair I'm not 100% sure but I recall when Revan described him he mentioned that he is so corrupted that he is 'no longer sith' or something like that, although it was a bit vague.

But does this mean the Emperor's true body is still alive? The interview with Hall Hood seems to make out that his real body or at least his only body was destroyed...

According to the dates on Wookiepedia, Vitiates body was 1163 years old when he was confronted by Revan. And he was 1472 years old when his voice was destroyed by the Hero of Tython... After over 1400 years would Vitiates body simply fail and die? It seems unlikely, he seemed perfectly able in the Revan novel. But then again became very secluded after the outbreak of the war, perhaps their are other reasons for this, I mean why would you need to completely hide yourself away from the Empire just to plan the annihilation of the galaxy that you've already being planning for the past millennia? Perhaps his dying body was the real reason for this. But it seems more likely that his original body is still alive, unless of course the process of losing his voice destroyed or damaged his body irreparably. I don't think we can say for sure, but this definitely makes it a strong possibility that the Emperor's true body is still alive, and that it is sith pureblood.

Thanks for the post Eightus! Makes you wonder what else is hidden in that massive book...

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Eightus
10.10.2012 , 12:47 PM | #93
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*gasp* I told you it had nuggets of info you couldn't find anywhere else! I can't believe I overlooked this, but to be honest, I wasn't that much interested in the Emperor's power base section. (by the way, I'm glad your enjoying the book). Hmmm, so this means that the Emperor is in fact sith, to be fair I'm not 100% sure but I recall when Revan described him he mentioned that he is so corrupted that he is 'no longer sith' or something like that, although it was a bit vague.

But does this mean the Emperor's true body is still alive? The interview with Hall Hood seems to make out that his real body or at least his only body was destroyed...

According to the dates on Wookiepedia, Vitiates body was 1163 years old when he was confronted by Revan. And he was 1472 years old when his voice was destroyed by the Hero of Tython... After over 1400 years would Vitiates body simply fail and die? It seems unlikely, he seemed perfectly able in the Revan novel. But then again became very secluded after the outbreak of the war, perhaps their are other reasons for this, I mean why would you need to completely hide yourself away from the Empire just to plan the annihilation of the galaxy that you've already being planning for the past millennia? Perhaps his dying body was the real reason for this. But it seems more likely that his original body is still alive, unless of course the process of losing his voice destroyed or damaged his body irreparably. I don't think we can say for sure, but this definitely makes it a strong possibility that the Emperor's true body is still alive, and that it is sith pureblood.

Thanks for the post Eightus! Makes you wonder what else is hidden in that massive book...
Its all thanks to you if i have to be honest LOL, I f i hadn't seen your post I wouldn't even know that such a good book was out there. But as you said there really is a lot of interesting information that you simply cant find anywhere else. Yeah that probably means that the Emperor is a Sith pureblood, the only description of him from the Revan novel that comes to my mind atm is that he had black eyes, and that sounded pretty cool LOL.

I think his real body is still alive and if I remember correctly the ritual he did on his home planet made him only partially immortal(only for a certain amount of time) and that is why he wants to perform the same ritual on the whole galaxy so he can become completely immortal. Or at least that is how I see it. So maybe his time is up and death is finally catching up with him? And that is why he cannot reveal himself in front of the Empire. Or maybe as you said the destruction of his Voice has damaged the original body as well? Who knows really...

Yes such a massive book I bet it hides more secrets just need to know where to look for them I guess.

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Beniboybling
10.10.2012 , 02:04 PM | #94
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Yes such a massive book I bet it hides more secrets just need to know where to look for them I guess.
My favourite find is at the very end: 'the key to the Empire's victory is close at hand...' no doubt it will be revealed in the game soon enough!

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Eightus
10.10.2012 , 06:10 PM | #95
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My favourite find is at the very end: 'the key to the Empire's victory is close at hand...' no doubt it will be revealed in the game soon enough!
Yeah I that line sent shivers down my spine. Tbh that whole paragraph was quite brilliant, it also appears that Darth Marr will be playing a bigger role. So yeah i hope we see those things/characters appear in the game soon.

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Ranadiel_Marius
10.11.2012 , 05:55 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Eightus View Post
So yesterday I was reading the Old Republic Encyclopedia, which btw is a great book with a massive amount of useful and interesting information, when I stumbled upon an interesting piece of information. Under the Emperor's Voice section, there was a paragraph that stated this:

"The Emperor created his first Voice after the legendary Jedi named Revan attempted to assassinate him on Dromund Kaas. Though Revan's plot failed, he approached within striking distance of the Emperor. To guard against further vulnerability, the Emperor created the Voice to deliver his orders while distancing himself from the forces that conspired against him. Centuries later, this very safeguard would save the Emperor once more."
Alright I'll...eventually make an update with this info.
A Primer on the Emperor(yes this does have spoiler)

One Night Stands and Similar Encounter (spoilers again, and I am probably going to repost this sometime in the future)

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Aries_cz
10.28.2012 , 07:32 AM | #97
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Another thing that is unclear is exactly how a Voice of the Emperor is created and whether this is related to the Children of the Emperor or not. We know the Emperor can take over the body of a Child of the Emperor, but it isnít clear whether this is what is going on with the Voice or if the two situations are unrelated except in impact on the host.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this (I do apologize for being lazy to read all replies), but this reminded me of how Collectors worked in Mass Effect 2 (another sci-fi RPG by BW). For those who has not played the game, spoilers ahead

Collectors are controlled by a "Collector General", who is permanently hiding inside their base in Core of the Galaxy, providing them with what looks like some sort of "hive-mind". The General seems to be permanently (except the very few last seconds of the game) under some minor control from Harbinger, the leader of Reapers, who is in sort of hibernation beyond the edge of Galaxy. At some point in the game (presumably after Sovereign dies in ME1), Harbinger awakens and "assumes direct control" of the General, which grants him the ability to overtake body of any Collector in the galaxy, something he is probably unable to do by himself, for whatever reasons (we ca assume that the Collector Base acts as some of of relay, so Harbinger can interact with it even from beyond the Galaxy).

So, now to why I think it is similar to what Emperor doest to Voice and his Children. The Children are the "basic" Collectors, the Voice is the General, and the True Body is the Harbinger. So the Voice provides the link between Children and the hibernating True Body, which recovers its strengths somewhere outside the known galaxy. If my assumptions are correct, the True Body needs to be hidden, both technologically and from Force. If everything that the Children experience would be transmitted (through the force, I presume) to the True body from all corners of the Galaxy, I believe that the Jedi could sense it eventually. So, by using the Voice as a relay, the information is transferred only from one point, and thus reducing the probability of detection. Also, it is the Voice that gives him the power to "control" the Children, because there were no "possessions" after the voice was killed, if I am not mistaken.

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OldVengeance
11.05.2012 , 10:48 PM | #98
I got the sense that the Voice that the Knight killed was more important than the Voice the Warrior killed. The Hand seems to regard the death of the Emperor's Voice in the Knight storyline as an unexpected and serious blow that badly wounded the Emperor enough that he needs much time to recover, while the Voss inhabited by the Emperor's Voice was actually someone they asked you kill and were able to deal with it without too much apparent trouble. So maybe the "true" Voice of the Emperor is more important than the other beings called "The Voice."

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seekerofpower
11.06.2012 , 01:46 PM | #99
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The other way I took the tweet is that his body is so radically different from what it originally looked like and in genetic make up from all of the rituals that the Sith Emperor is now basically his own species. I really wish that Drew had been more clear because I find his tweet really confusing and really open to interpretation.
According to the Revan novel, Vitiate is half-human/half-sith before the ritual. After the ritual, the book basically says he is now his own race as he evolved to the point that he no longer falls into a current racial category.
"Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. Statement: This definition, I am told, is subject to interpretation. Obviously, love is a matter of odds. Not many meatbags could make such a shot, and fewer would derive love from it. Yet for me, love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds."

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seekerofpower
11.06.2012 , 01:51 PM | #100
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I think his real body is still alive and if I remember correctly the ritual he did on his home planet made him only partially immortal(only for a certain amount of time) and that is why he wants to perform the same ritual on the whole galaxy so he can become completely immortal. Or at least that is how I see it. So maybe his time is up and death is finally catching up with him?
The Revan novel explains exactly how it works. He can die once for every soul he absorbs. He absorbed an entire planet. That means he was never truely immortal per se. He wants to perform the ritual again just to have more life to fall back on.
"Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. Statement: This definition, I am told, is subject to interpretation. Obviously, love is a matter of odds. Not many meatbags could make such a shot, and fewer would derive love from it. Yet for me, love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds."