10 reasons why Marauder is the weakest class in PvP

I have FOUR marauder characters across 3 servers.

the main lv 50 geared, dark side.

an alt lv 40 for light side play

another alt lv 40 with diff gender

yet another alt 20 with different server type to play with friends.




So I believe I've played enough games with marauder. I am usually not a complaining type, but more I play mara more I realize how UP they are in PvP.

Let me jump straight to the topic of why marauder is a joke in PvP. It easily becomes the worst PvP class especially with carnage tree. (it is good with PvE, though.)




1. Worst medal earning in PvP.

75k damage
25 kills
10 kills
solo kills
killing blow

It's pretty much all the basic medals you can get in many games before 50. (well sure you can get 25k damage medal but as annahilator you don't have damage burst, as rage you don't get that much damage until later in tech tree, so doesn't carnage until you get gore. There are exceptions but I often check scoreboard to see most mara don't get medal until they get to high lvl.)

A jugg can best marauder in the medal number in 3 min. 3 medals defending, 10 kills and killing blow.

The very first time I played scoundrel I had 52 kills 3 deaths on voidstar as lvl 10 and I've never had that many kills as marauder before. When I first played Juggernaut I had 8 medals which I seldom achieved as mara.



2. Low DPS...

When I was playing marauder I thought mara had the highest dps compared to other classes, but apparently that's not even true.

Your lack of CC breaking skills constantly disrupts your moves, kites you, ending in even lesser dps than most ranged classes, hence low kill/death ratio. Maybe mara has the highest damage potential if you are hitting a rag doll standing still, but we all know that's not the case.

The pure dps used to have damage bonus over hybrids, but now that's been removed and hybrids sometimes do even more damage, while healing themselves, CCing, and using push/ pull abilities.

In Alderaan PvP stealthed scoundrels sometimes do 4k+ dmg, which will never happen with mara. Your best dmg output before 50 will be barely past 2.5k.



3. NO CC

what more do I need to say?





4. No push/ pull abilities

This makes marauder a joke in huttball. A ranged hits you from above. If they are in cover, you have to just run away. If not, you charge up there to be pushed back immediately, slowed down effect as a bonus. If you persist, you MIGHT hit the attacker one or two times before they take 10k+ of your health.




5. Not enough CC breaking ability

unleash = once in every 2 min

carnage has one free movement ability(camouflage) but it's late skill and takes 2 points to just acquire that skill, which makes it obsolete.

This is the ridiculous number of free movement skills for a class that has neither CC or force push/pull.

You will be constantly kited, CCed, pushed, pulled, slowed, and you can't even break free.

This makes makes marauder extremely weak in any circumstances other than 1 on 1. Even on 1 on 1, you will still get kited.




6. Not enough ability to hold/root the enemy

carnage can hold enemy for 3 sec at best.

for rage/annihilator? sigh.




7. Squish.

melee class with no tanking ability. enough said.

only safe for 5 sec with undying rage...





8. No versatility

a pure melee DPS class that can't deal enough damage...




9. Good at 1v1, otherwise always BAD.

2v2, 2v1, 3v3, 4v4, you name it.

And even if you best your opponent in 1v1, your opponent can just root you/ CC you/push you/ slow you/ cloak himself and runaway. You can do non of those if you are trying to get away. (*4 sec* camouflage?)




10. Worst combination..


Kited + fragile

fragile + melee dps

fragile + no healing ability

fragile + no cc

fragile + no push/pull

fragile + no hiding/cover ability

fragile + no tricks, pure damage abilities only

not enough medals + late to gear up

pure dps + only slightly higher overall dps compared to other classes.









Try to check scoreboard after each PvP. You will notice juggs often top the board while it's marauders placed at the bottom. What's funny is their overal damage aren't that different either. Marauder will often claim the top damage amount, but it's not even much while mara is inferior in every other score criteria.

I wasn't going to write this post until 10 mit ago when a guy complained how weak scoundrel is in PvP on gen chat of the fleet, yelling Marauder IMBA! I laughed hard, and wrote this off right away.

I urge you to play marauder as your next alt. This class is overwhelmingly... weak in PvP. For ex, as scoundrel, you can hide in cover and spam blast ability ONLY and do nothing else to best marauder in kill/death ratio. On Illum you are often the first target even before healers because you are so fragile, and die in 3,4 sec with focus fire.





I hold much affection to anything first, hence I love marauder since I chose it as my first character. But more alt I make more I see how bad marauders are at PvP.

We are PROUD kill count donators and a class cannon that is hyped-up to have a high dps but often we just end up shattering even before loading cannon balls. YAY us.

I'm not even going to ask BW to fix this. I just want people to realize it's juggs that occupies top scoreboard in PvP and maras are often at the rock bottom. I hope people stop yelling mara IMBA simply because they see sith warriors scoring high in PvP and think all sith warriors are IMBA. Juggs maybe good, but mara is definitely the weakest class in PvP.










ps. marauder + carnage is a even bigger joke. Anna + mara is already bad, and carnage is much, much worse.

I'm going to assume in all your experience playing marauders you never actually used an annihilation spec.

LOL MARAUDER IS THE WEAKEST PVP CLASS?

You have 4 marauders and you STILL haven't learned how to play it correctly?


They DOMINATE PvP in small scale situations and they are extremely strong in group v. group situations as well.

The thing about Mauraders and Sentinels is... they wreck faces... but only if you're skilled at the class. It's been stated before that these Advanced Classes are the hardest to learn and master.

You say you have 4 Maurader characters and have played them to death, but playing a class for a long time does NOT MEAN you're any good at it.

Verdict: You suck at Maurader but don't want to admit it so you come here to complain about the class.

Maybe you should try another class aswell and compare....without defence cooldowns the class is weak but if you have your cooldowns up you should do well in 1v1. Its always better to play at least 2-3 classes to see the difference and not just only one but maybe you have done this already. In mass pvp the marauder sucks, so carefull and dont jump always in a group of players. Marauder is not an I win button, you have to really work for your skills and the class is very dependant on cd´s.

"Try to check scoreboard after each PvP. You will notice juggs often top the board while it's marauders placed at the bottom. What's funny is their overal damage aren't that different either. Marauder will often claim the top damage amount, but it's not even much while mara is inferior in every other score criteria."

I top DPS every single game, usually beating 2nd place by 50-100k. Not sure what you mean by "inferior in every other score criteria" though. We're a DPS class, not a tank or healer. We're not going to top every single thing (even though I've gotten top heals plenty of times as a sentinel, not that my healing means much over all to the team). Yeah, we can only get 8 or 9 medals tops when we do extremely well where my vanguard could get 10 or 11, but so what? Medals are not the end all to how effective we are in PvP, since every class has its own strengths. I can't complete with my sentinel's healer/caster killing ability on my vanguard or even on my merc.

Don't want to sound like the ******* that says "L2P", but it really looks like you don't know how to play marauder at all from reading your list. I don't understand why you keep rolling them. Better yet, I don't understand why after having so much experience with them that you still do so poorly.

Have you even tried annhilation?

Yes this class takes some skill to master no doubt about that. We cant charge into a guy then press 1 button and win the duel. thank god that we dont are an 1 ability spam class..

We have a lot of stuff to use in every situation, i tend to use pretty much everything a marauder got ( depending on who i fight).
In a 1on1 situation we have the tools to take on pretty much every other class, nothing new here. We are a dps class period.. Dunno why ppl are complaining about dying fast, we are not juggs.. With the right skill and cd ofc you can seem to take dmg like a tank, atleast for some seconds. Combingin force camo, undying rage, CoP, SW, relics and all the other stuff you can rly turn a fight.

About the cc.. we HAVE 2 of them, specing carnage will give you 2 more if specced right.
Not the best cc in game i agree on that, imo this game has too much cc involved allready.
cc in swtor is to damn noob friendly, too much spamming of cc's.

When i started playing this class at launch it seemd gimped, i died fast and other ppl were doing more dmg then me. Buuuuut when you play a class like this you have to put in a little extra, so by learning other classes abilities/cd/cc, getting some fancy new gear, learning how to get a nice flow on your abilities/cd's you will totaly wreck wz.
Im earning medals and topping the dps meter pretty much everytime.
Even if i do sick dmg and know how to counter most classes i can't excpect to stand a shine if i get jumped by 3 guys when im all alone. Like i said we are a dps class with some utility's. But our utility's has some limits, we cant always win a fight.

So to sum this up, happy with the class, we dont need more cc, we have the utility's, learn how to use them before making a post abput us beeing underpowered

Well only thing i got to say about this post is LOL....

Have you tried speccing Annihilation and attacking squishies? Marauders are devastating.

dude....thats just said. I wreck ppl in pvp with annihilation spec