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Be Careful for what you wish for


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Englefield
02.29.2012 , 04:38 AM | #51
Please let's not turn this thread into another LFG discussion, that's not what it's about. The OP is talking about all wow features.


Quote: Originally Posted by WhiskyJax View Post
While i understand your reasoning unfortunately the lack of those "features" is the reason people are saying they are leaving the game.

This quote highlights exactly the problem of pandering to the WoW masses. If it isn't done right or the way they want it they'll be straight back to WoW, afterall why play a bugged version of WoW when the original works so well right?

As I've said in another thread Bioware seem to have just spent all their time and money catering to the WoW fan base when they should have been creating the TOR fan base. They had a real opportunity to carve their own identity into the MMO market, but have even admitted simply tagged onto the ideas of another game.

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chaosdefined
02.29.2012 , 04:44 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayfax View Post
Ya mean, like you just did?

Online forum polls with less than 100 respondents aren't significant enough to draw any conclusions at all.

Your counter argument seems based on a few faulty assumptions. The biggest one being that the introduction of LFG does not change how people interact with one on another.

LFG tools present two problems: they undercut an MMOs biggest advantage (socialization, other players, etc) and emphasize its biggest disadvantage (endless gear grinds).
I provided some evidence, a hell of a lot more than you have done so far.

Please provide me with evidence to your opinion that the LFG undercuts community?

I mean at the moment I'm mid levelling, and I can sit on the fleet at peak times spamming for a group for hours to no reply. Community? I think not.

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Synamon
02.29.2012 , 04:57 AM | #53
I doubt the reason people left wow is because of the lfg tool and lfr tool. Maybe it has something to do with i don't know being burned out for playing a game for a number of years? They don't like where the game is heading? The lfg tool has not in anyway made those 1.8 million people leave the game. "OH my god the lfg tool! **** this i am out!" If anything it has made people get through the content and LFG was introduced when wow was near its peak. Even then the numbers lasted for 1 year of ICC. So yeah.

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wtfnonamefree
02.29.2012 , 05:25 AM | #54
Friends made me roll on a (german) RP-PvP server. It's one-of-a-kind, so we have the benefit of our private official forum and of course - a healthy population. There are PuG operations opening as late as 1 or 2am.

Also, quite often, the Reps dominate Ilum, go figure...

Only downside being I don't get Huttball as often as I'd like.^^
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Silarr
02.29.2012 , 05:51 AM | #55
The best way for me would be server transfers. Although merges and transfers both might alienate the community, transfers don't have to happen, where else merges are mandatory.

Anyway I like when in PvP I meet the same people that know what I am capable off and try to nuke me first, while I keep my team alive.
I believe though that in case the transfers are scheduled for way later, my server (Bao-Dur) will need a LFG tool.

Of course I could find a quite active guild for that sake, but this might prove to be a difficult task, as I am republic and we don't get more than 80 people in prime time in the fleet. Re-rolling not gonna happen as I grew fond of my jedi sage (and after 2 months I just hit 49; PvPing is the slower way to level after all).
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Lightmaguz
02.29.2012 , 05:53 AM | #56
LFG while keeping things in the same server is an extremely welcome improvement, I like the planned features sans the cross-server stuff. And Bioware already announced them in one of the interviews/q&as.

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muzzle_flash
02.29.2012 , 06:06 AM | #57
I would agree that it was a terribad idea for wow, just imho of course. Unfortunately swtor doesnt really have any choice, wow wasnt dying after 3 months...

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Isaiahsdad
02.29.2012 , 06:11 AM | #58
Because there is no way bioware would copy blizzard lololol



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Tekkoclarky
02.29.2012 , 06:17 AM | #59
World PVP was dead before it even started.

I don't really PVP in game anymore, I got bored of it, so I don't know what queues are like these days, if they are bad, X-Server is needed sadly. This is Biowares own fault though for having poor server caps.

LFG tool is needed for FPs, it's impossible to find a group while levelling and pretty much impossible to find a group at 50 unless there is guildies on. Which outside of raid times is rare.

I wouldn't like a X-server LFG FP tool, I hope the server numbers aren't that bad to force that.

LFR tool, no thanks.

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IIII-IIII-IIII
02.29.2012 , 06:20 AM | #60
Be Careful for what you wish for...

I thought for sure this thread was going to be about all the short-sighted folks that were whining about login que-times at launch which ultimately lead to TOO many servers.

To me, that was and still is the most damaging element to this launch.
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