Dots no longer helpful in defense???????

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nschlan

02.28.2012 , 11:02 PM \| #291	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Grimmspat Again, as I said above, Sage/Seers full spec'd healers can't cleanse all dots. So I guess you are saying you need multiple classes that can cleanse multiple types of dots as you never know what type of class is defending a node and the dot they bring. This change is good. No, it's not. Even if you can't cleanse everything, why is your DPS letting them just sit and spam DoTs? If there's you and 1 or 2 dps, it's a nonissue.

Khayleth

02.28.2012 , 11:02 PM \| #292	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Greyfeld The problem with this change isn't the [im]balance it applies to instanced pvp, it's more about the effect it has on certain classes/specs. As it stands, my Empire main is a Sniper, and this change hurts my Eng/Leth hybrid spec pretty badly. Which wouldn't be a huge deal if it weren't for the fact that Lethality is pretty much the go-to pvp spec for Snipers, as things stand right now. What exactly have they done to hurt you? DoT damage and duration has not been reduced and sniper dot's aren't getting nerfed (to my knowledge).
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nschlan

02.28.2012 , 11:03 PM \| #293	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Guzul About time, took them 2 months to realise that. I'm happy they saw that before they implant the WZ rating. Even with 8 sec it will be really hard to plant the bomb in Voidstar. If spamming dots = skill, maybe it's time to quit the pvp in any mmo even GW2. It was OP as hell and there is no good argument to counter that. Edit: typo No one said it equaled skill. All we said was it's a valid strat and that cleansing solves all problems. So does not standing in AoE DoTs and not letting someone free cast DoTs Off topic side note: GW2 doesn't require clicking stuff to cap.

nschlan

02.28.2012 , 11:03 PM \| #294	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessorWalsh Good: "Oh noes! I have been DoT'd... I'll just cleanse myself... Oh wait... I'm a Sentinel... I can't do that." Or to put it another way... Not everyone plays a Sorcerer and can cleanse themselves. You're a Sentinel, you can do it to them so it balances out.

nschlan

02.28.2012 , 11:05 PM \| #295	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Khayleth What exactly have they done to hurt you? DoT damage and duration has not been reduced and sniper dot's aren't getting nerfed (to my knowledge). Sniper has terrible survivability. It's useful as a defender only so long as it can DoT people and the other team's healers suck (which apparently is true in the cases of most people here). Thus this hurts Sniper

savionen

02.28.2012 , 11:05 PM \| #296	Quote
Don't forget that the average team these days is 4 Sorcerers and 4 Mercenaries, so they can technically wipe DoTs with ease. 3 out of 8 advanced classes can remove DoTs of some sort, 2 of the 8 are the most played classes in the game. 2 out of 8 advanced classes can remove DoTs from themselves and temporarily become immune to them for 3-5 seconds.

Apocalypse-

02.28.2012 , 11:07 PM \| #297	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by nschlan You're a Sentinel, you can do it to them so it balances out. Our best dot is SIX seconds long. If everyone was restricted to six second dots, this wouldn't be an issue. It's the TWENTY ONE second dots that are the problem. 21 seconds is longer than the time it takes to die and take a speeder back to left/right, six seconds isn't even long enough to get back onto the speeder, no less off of it.
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Greyfeld

02.28.2012 , 11:08 PM \| #298	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Khayleth What exactly have they done to hurt you? DoT damage and duration has not been reduced and sniper dot's aren't getting nerfed (to my knowledge). Most of my damage comes from my DOTs. If they're no longer interrupting objective caps, I have to take time and resources out of my damage output to actively stop them. And you can say, "Everybody else has to, so why shouldn't you?" but Lethality is already an energy-starved spec, in addition to not having any cleanse resistance built in. Having to spend more energy that I don't have to pop AoEs against multiple cappers (or out-of-sight cappers) only makes things worse.
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Greyfeld

02.28.2012 , 11:09 PM \| #299	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by nschlan Sniper has terrible survivability. It's useful as a defender only so long as it can DoT people and the other team's healers suck (which apparently is true in the cases of most people here). Thus this hurts Sniper That, too. It would be far less of a problem if I were an Operative.
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savionen

02.28.2012 , 11:10 PM \| #300	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Apocalypse- Our best dot is SIX seconds long. If everyone was restricted to six second dots, this wouldn't be an issue. It's the TWENTY ONE second dots that are the problem. 21 seconds is longer than the time it takes to die and take a speeder back to left/right, six seconds isn't even long enough to get back onto the speeder, no less off of it. Most DoTs are 6 seconds or 15 seconds. The only 18 second DoTs require the player to spec/stance into something, and the only 21 second DoT has to be spec'd into and is the least-played class/least-played spec in the game. The 21 second and 18 second DoTs can be cured by Sorcerer/Sages, which are..... ALL OVER the place.

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