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1.1.5 Just got Updated.

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Ravonous_Curse
02.28.2012 , 05:37 PM | #271
IS it 1000 Merc and 1000 WZ tokens per bm token?

Are we still going to have daily bm bags?

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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 05:38 PM | #272
Quote: Originally Posted by TeflonScoundrel View Post
Seem to me that pride should come from winning because you were smarter or more skillful, not because you were wearing an advantage in gear and won. When you win because you're supposed to win, how is that fun? Not trying to pick on you in particular, I just don't understand how having BM gear alone can be so fulfilling to people to get them so upset by these changes.

In my opinion acquiring the gear is not anywhere as meaningful an achievement as overcoming the competition when the outcome isn't impacted so extensively by gear. It's not like grinding the gear is a difficult thing to do, I mean there are lots of battlemasters already only 2 months into the game. It's not really that exclusive a club.
Most of us wanted the BM gear so that we could fight competitively w/ anyone else.

It certainly was never about stroking my epeen or strutting around the fleet.

I just wanted to lose fights because I was outplayed, not because I was outgeared.
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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 05:40 PM | #273
I just wanted mine cause it looked cool really.

Honestly if that was all that valor got you was the chance to look cooler than the other player that'd be enough for me. Anyone who actually plays on Adraas knows I'm not BSing when I say I dont need a gear advantage.
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dnomz
02.28.2012 , 05:40 PM | #274
Wow... I can't believe what I've just read.

This is the nail in the coffin for me. Have they lost their gosh darn minds?!

Ilum daily/weekly can be done by playing Warzones?! Do they realise this will KILL Ilum PvP COMPLETELY?! The ONLY reason people PvP at Ilum is BECAUSE of the daily/weekly, NOT because they enjoy the lagfest.

And what's all that changes to Warzones?! 500 *********** Valor PER medal, up to a maximum of 4?! That's 2000 *********** free Valor EVERY round. I get only 500 right now after collecting 10(!) medals. I understand you want to stop the medal farming, but WHY SO MANY?! 2000 is WAAY too much. And 4 medals is too damn easy to get. Killing blow, 2k protect, 5k protect, 10k protect. Good job here is your free 2000 valor.

I'm about to become War Hero Valor rank 70, the third on my server as Republic. That took a lot of time. With these changes everyone and his mom will be a War Hero within 2 weeks.

Thanks for nothing Bioware. You just killed my ENTIRE lust for PvP.

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Grossmoff
02.28.2012 , 05:44 PM | #275
dont forget that 1.2 will hit the servers withhin 30 days. with ranked warzones and a new set of pve/pvp gear. there is nothing wrong with making BM gear faster accessible now. I am a battlemaster and I approve that change. not mentioning that BM gear was hardly better than the champion set, for the sorceror its actually even worse.

I wish they fixed Ilum instead of letting it go, though.
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zizzefex
02.28.2012 , 05:46 PM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by dnomz View Post
Wow... I can't believe what I've just read.

This is the nail in the coffin for me. Have they lost their gosh darn minds?!

Ilum daily/weekly can be done by playing Warzones?! Do they realise this will KILL Ilum PvP COMPLETELY?! The ONLY reason people PvP at Ilum is BECAUSE of the daily/weekly, NOT because they enjoy the lagfest.

And what's all that changes to Warzones?! 500 *********** Valor PER medal, up to a maximum of 4?! That's 2000 *********** free Valor EVERY round. I get only 500 right now after collecting 10(!) medals. I understand you want to stop the medal farming, but WHY SO MANY?! 2000 is WAAY too much. And 4 medals is too damn easy to get. Killing blow, 2k protect, 5k protect, 10k protect. Good job here is your free 2000 valor.

I'm about to become War Hero Valor rank 70, the third on my server as Republic. That took a lot of time. With these changes everyone and his mom will be a War Hero within 2 weeks.

Thanks for nothing Bioware. You just killed my ENTIRE lust for PvP.
I don't understand how ANY repub can be against these changes.... considering imp's generally outnumber repub on almost any server and they get free 200 valor a kill on ilum to our 20.... basically getting free battlemasters for everyone just because they freakin chose a faction.

I'm already a battlemaster on my main doing it the hard way.... but this will actually make me pvp on my alts and gear them up instead of doing the stupid mass WZ's valor farm when everyone from the other faction gets valor 60 for free.

Great job BW I say.

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dnomz
02.28.2012 , 05:46 PM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by Grossmoff View Post
dont forget that 1.2 will hit the servers withhin 30 days. with ranked warzones and a new set of pve/pvp gear. there is nothing wrong with making BM gear faster accessible now. I am a battlemaster and I approve that change.

I wish they fixed Ilum instead of letting it go, though.
I don't give a **** about BM gear! Everyone may have it! But making Valor speed up by 1 billion percentage is rediculous! Think about all the people that reached War Hero and up by grinding their *** off in WZ or Ilum.

Just remove the damn BM title requirement for the gear then so all may get it.

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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 05:46 PM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by dnomz View Post
Wow... I can't believe what I've just read.

This is the nail in the coffin for me. Have they lost their gosh darn minds?!

Ilum daily/weekly can be done by playing Warzones?! Do they realise this will KILL Ilum PvP COMPLETELY?! The ONLY reason people PvP at Ilum is BECAUSE of the daily/weekly, NOT because they enjoy the lagfest.

And what's all that changes to Warzones?! 500 *********** Valor PER medal, up to a maximum of 4?! That's 2000 *********** free Valor EVERY round. I get only 500 right now after collecting 10(!) medals. I understand you want to stop the medal farming, but WHY SO MANY?! 2000 is WAAY too much. And 4 medals is too damn easy to get. Killing blow, 2k protect, 5k protect, 10k protect. Good job here is your free 2000 valor.

I'm about to become War Hero Valor rank 70, the third on my server as Republic. That took a lot of time. With these changes everyone and his mom will be a War Hero within 2 weeks.

Thanks for nothing Bioware. You just killed my ENTIRE lust for PvP.
Do you even read what you write?

In the same breath, you imply it's a bad thing that people no longer have to do something that they do not enjoy.

They're giving you more valor for your time, and you're whining about it.

You can still say you were the third War Hero on your server as Republic, which doesn't really change anything at all from now. Who cares about War Heroes right now? That's right, no one.

They made PvP a lot better for everyone, and you're complaining because "back in your day, you had to pvp uphill both ways".

Do you drive w/ an old school steering wheel because power steering makes driving too easy these days? And mirrors are obviously for carebears.
Quote: Originally Posted by JayPres View Post
Strap your digital dog to your digital roof and take your ideologies, lovely wife, and sweet little 8yr old girl to a PVE server where you fit best.

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Archaar
02.28.2012 , 05:49 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
rofl, yesterday you were just calling Ilum "a horrible joke", now you're unsubbing because BW won't force everyone else to be there w/ you?
Ilum IS a horrible joke, but I would rather they fixed it, than killed it off. I am unsubbing because I do not like the direction they are heading, it's my choice it doesn't effect anyone, just one less player standing in fleet doing nothing lol

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KyoMamoru
02.28.2012 , 05:50 PM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by dnomz View Post
I'm about to become War Hero Valor rank 70, the third on my server as Republic. That took a lot of time. With these changes everyone and his mom will be a War Hero within 2 weeks.

Thanks for nothing Bioware. You just killed my ENTIRE lust for PvP.
You realize, that just means that the next title will become worth more, right?

http://imgur.com/a/v6bcv#FsArk

Valor 80 will be the new Valor 70. Games change with patches, and the worth of items and accomplishments are diminished. In another content patch or so, all the Rakata gear will be worthless, and all the BM gear will be as well since the new gear will eclipse it. I believe that they intended Ilum to be the main source of Valor, but due to it under-performing, people are having to use War Zones. They are rewarding players for their chosen activities.