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Dakan
02.28.2012 , 04:16 PM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
I'd prefer it if it was just skill, but at the very least I'd like to see skill to getting you there faster.

And the "sense of entitlement" is better found with those who want the elite rewards with less or no work.

These people feel they are entitled to battlemaster gear regardless of how good they are or how much time they've put in. Thats what a sense of entitlement is.
There's a GEAR GAP in this game. A GEAR GAP!

Do I need to repeat it a third time?

If there wasn't one, then I couldn't care less about gearing up as quickly, but, as it stands now, there is one, and to even compete, I need to get the high end gear.

I can take losses. I understand you win some and lose some. But not being able to even compete is very, very, very frustrating for a lot of people.

The gap continues to grow wider every day, too.

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SWImara
02.28.2012 , 04:16 PM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
I'd prefer it if it was just skill, but at the very least I'd like to see skill to getting you there faster.

And the "sense of entitlement" is better found with those who want the elite rewards with less or no work.

These people feel they are entitled to battlemaster gear regardless of how good they are or how much time they've put in. Thats what a sense of entitlement is.
To be blunt this argument would have more merit if valor rating was somehow also tied to kvd ratio, win v loss ratio or some other simplistic measure of ability. Valor is an xp grind, grind =/= skill.

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cefan_essaomofo
02.28.2012 , 04:17 PM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by hurriedcorgi View Post
I'm pretty pissed about this medal thing. I average 7-8 medals a match and felt good when I got 9. I didn't "farm" medals - I earned them by making my focus on winning objectives. Not *** is the point?
You do realize that getting 4 after this patch will be the same as getting 8?....

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OrionDammit
02.28.2012 , 04:18 PM | #254
Hey, ********, I was merely posting notes. I would have still grinded to BM if they didn't make the changes. Try a chill pill or two.
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ShadowOfVey
02.28.2012 , 04:22 PM | #255
Here's something to look forward to:

There will actually be extra bad players that complain after this change, because they can't quite seem to get 4 medals.

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OrionDammit
02.28.2012 , 04:28 PM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowOfVey View Post
Here's something to look forward to:

There will actually be extra bad players that complain after this change, because they can't quite seem to get 4 medals.
Then they might as well uninstall.
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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 04:28 PM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by richardya View Post
Is there a level of PvP gear post Battlemaster in 1.2?
I haven't seen it confirmed, but they are bringing out a whole bunch of temporary vendors that will have color crystals w/ nice stats on them, as well as updating a lot of other vendors, and lowering speeder prices in 1.1.5.

It certainly looks like they're getting ready to bring out a new tier of gear for PvE and PvP.
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Forthehonor
02.28.2012 , 04:29 PM | #258
These patch notes make me VERY happy, it basically solves a lot of my small grudges, of course i still have more but this is *********** AWESOME PATCH NOTES. best thing is, it seems that these patch notes are actually based on what the forums have been saying, so they do actually try to implement our feedback, these patch notes made me trust bioware just that bit more .
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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 04:33 PM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by Dakan View Post
There's a GEAR GAP in this game. A GEAR GAP!

Do I need to repeat it a third time?

If there wasn't one, then I couldn't care less about gearing up as quickly, but, as it stands now, there is one, and to even compete, I need to get the high end gear.

I can take losses. I understand you win some and lose some. But not being able to even compete is very, very, very frustrating for a lot of people.

The gap continues to grow wider every day, too.
You can compete in centurion/champion gear.

If you can't the problem IS NOT WITH THE GEAR. Your ego probably won't let you accept that but its true.

As I said earlier, I was taking out battlemaster sorcs in centurion/champion gear, and getting that level of gear now is piss easy after the changes to how bags work.

15 centurion commendations a bag? You'll have a full set of centurion gear in like a day or two at the latest.

Battlemaster gear really isn't as good as you seem to think it is. Go to the battlemaster vendor and look and see how minor the differences are between your champion bit of gear, and the BM bit of gear, then come back.

You'll see how minor the upgrades are. They're just this side of totally insignificant.
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Dakan
02.28.2012 , 04:45 PM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
You can compete in centurion/champion gear.

If you can't the problem IS NOT WITH THE GEAR. Your ego probably won't let you accept that but its true.

As I said earlier, I was taking out battlemaster sorcs in centurion/champion gear, and getting that level of gear now is piss easy after the changes to how bags work.

15 centurion commendations a bag? You'll have a full set of centurion gear in like a day or two at the latest.

Battlemaster gear really isn't as good as you seem to think it is. Go to the battlemaster vendor and look and see how minor the differences are between your champion bit of gear, and the BM bit of gear, then come back.

You'll see how minor the upgrades are. The battlemaster knife for example for operatives? Six more max damage, three more minimum damage.

This is practically nothing.
I'm in full Cent gear with a few Champ pieces.

The teams I'm facing in full BM I barely scratch.

It has nothing to do with ego.

I'm actually pretty humble and modest when it comes to my skill level. I'm not the most elite PvP'er in the world, but I'm also not the worst. I think I'm above average in skill, I'm not a moron and play to the objectives. I utilize every skill in my toolbox and know all of the little tricks in every WZ.

Even with all of that, I try to learn from my mistakes and strive to get better on a daily basis.

Expertise is the name of the game, and if you don't have a lot of it, good luck!

Let's stop pretending gear doesn't matter in this game.