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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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Touchbass
03.02.2012 , 06:15 PM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by Malefactor View Post
Didn't bother to go through all the pages of this thread, but has anyone mentioned the fact that Blizzard has been rehashing old dungeons/raids since WOTLK, and will continue this trend in MoP? Or that Blizzard has one of (if not the) slowest development times to release new content?

If BioWare can keep pace with their current content release schedule (2 major content patches in ~3 months, no idea on their timetable for expansions) and Blizzard continues their slow content release schedule (a major content patch ~6 months + expansion every 1 1/2-2 years) they will surpass Blizzard in endgame (and fluff) content in a relatively short amount of time, time that all MMO's need to expand upon the foundation that is the launch product.
This game has been out since December 15 and we haven't even see one content patch yet. If you think putting in a flashpoint thats gear was part of the set on launch afterwards is a content patch then kodos to the SWTOR marketing team for getting you to drink that. It'd be like me saying when Blizzard launched ZA/ZG heroics that that was a seperate content patch then the Firelands raid they accompanied. Blizzard takes so long with their patches cause they are beefy and mini expansions.
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BlackZoback
03.02.2012 , 06:20 PM | #362
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
This game has been out since December 15 and we haven't even see one content patch yet. If you think putting in a flashpoint thats gear was part of the set on launch afterwards is a content patch then kodos to the SWTOR marketing team for getting you to drink that. It'd be like me saying when Blizzard launched ZA/ZG heroics that that was a seperate content patch then the Firelands raid they accompanied. Blizzard takes so long with their patches cause they are beefy and mini expansions.
1.1 wasn't a content patch? could have sworn they opened the rest of KP and added another FP.

Gear is not content btw.

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Touchbass
03.02.2012 , 06:21 PM | #363
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackZoback View Post
1.1 wasn't a content patch? could have sworn they opened the rest of KP and added another FP.

Gear is not content btw.
Putting in content that should of been released with the game is not a content patch.
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Malefactor
03.02.2012 , 06:22 PM | #364
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
This game has been out since December 15 and we haven't even see one content patch yet. If you think putting in a flashpoint thats gear was part of the set on launch afterwards is a content patch then kodos to the SWTOR marketing team for getting you to drink that. It'd be like me saying when Blizzard launched ZA/ZG heroics that that was a seperate content patch then the Firelands raid they accompanied. Blizzard takes so long with their patches cause they are beefy and mini expansions.
1.1 was a content patch, whether you feel it wasn't enough is your opinion, doesn't change the fact that it was a content patch.

1.2 will be another, ever larger content patch.
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Touchbass
03.02.2012 , 06:24 PM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by Malefactor View Post
1.1 was a content patch, whether you feel it wasn't enough is your opinion, doesn't change the fact that it was a content patch.

1.2 will be another, ever larger content patch.
So when Blizzard spilt up ZA/ZG heroics and some features and then released Firelands that was 2 seperate content patches?
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Malefactor
03.02.2012 , 06:32 PM | #366
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
So when Blizzard spilt up ZA/ZG heroics and some features and then released Firelands that was 2 seperate content patches?
I don't know, wasn't there I left just prior to Cata. ZA/ZG are rehashes of old content though, so I don't know if calling them "new content" is entirely accurate.

Do you happen to recall the patch numbers?
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BlackZoback
03.02.2012 , 06:36 PM | #367
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
Putting in content that should of been released with the game is not a content patch.
Content patches = patches with content.

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Dayfax
03.02.2012 , 06:37 PM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by Malefactor View Post
Didn't bother to go through all the pages of this thread, but has anyone mentioned the fact that Blizzard has been rehashing old dungeons/raids since WOTLK, and will continue this trend in MoP? Or that Blizzard has one of (if not the) slowest development times to release new content?

If BioWare can keep pace with their current content release schedule (2 major content patches in ~3 months, no idea on their timetable for expansions) and Blizzard continues their slow content release schedule (a major content patch ~6 months + expansion every 1 1/2-2 years) they will surpass Blizzard in endgame (and fluff) content in a relatively short amount of time, time that all MMO's need to expand upon the foundation that is the launch product.
You're right, but then Warcraft is obviously at the end of its lifecycle and doesn't have the budget it used to.

Bioware is still playing catchup, and 1.2 looks more and more like the game they originally meant to ship. What will be interesting to see is whether they can continue this pace while growing the playerbase.

If subs don't grow, then I expect EA will cut the budgets & the rate of updates will slow to a crawl.
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oakamp
03.02.2012 , 06:42 PM | #369
we dont care that wow ,
stop talk about it,
u can quit , back to ur little wow.
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Samborino
03.02.2012 , 06:42 PM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by Yaiser View Post
To de-bunk and explain some thoughts

Thought #1 WoW has more raid content

False - Ever since BC WoW has implemented 2 instances in the first raid tier of an expansion. We are seeing, so far, the same model in TOR. Cataclysm was the exception to this in WoW but the raids easily were considered one raid as clearing both BOT/BWL in one night was common place.
Well isnt it also common place to clear both KP and EV in the same night as well? So should we consider them as 1 raid? Because that makes the first argument valid again going by your reasoning.