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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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Derekloffin
03.01.2012 , 01:30 PM | #161
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Wow, you can find anything to complain about.
I wasn't complaining, just pointing out the truth.

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Yes, cosmetic... but it added depth and interest to the world. One of the things I don't think even many TOR fans would argue the galaxy needs more of!
Now I'll complain. Having come from FFXI, WoW's day night cycles actually felt silly and tacked on. Nothing more silly in WoW than being in the dead of night as seeing the same children walking down the street in Stormwind. On top of that, many zones ignored day/night. I feel much the same about when people bring up being able to sit on chairs which I feel is the most completely pointless waste of development time in WoW. If you're going to add something environmental, make it affect the game. Cosmetic is good to a point, but there are lots of things that just shouldn't be added unless they actually have some meaningful impact.

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Also adding mechanical differences to some extent is a losing proposition. Now you want to balance nighttime fights and daytime fights? Diminishing ROI on that one... sorry to say. Cosmetic is the right move in that case.
Again I disagree. If you can't make it matter, do something else entirely. I'd rather them spend the development time making a new dungeon, or some more quests, or whatever, than wasting it on a useless cosmetic effect.

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reaperkeepet
03.01.2012 , 01:33 PM | #162
Enough! Sick and tired of these 2 month old game VS 7 year old game threads. U WANT RAID? I GIVE U RAID. I GIVE YOU GAME UPDATE 1.2. I GIVE IT LIFE!
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MPagano
03.01.2012 , 01:35 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Yaiser View Post
To de-bunk and explain some thoughts

Thought #1 WoW has more raid content

False - Ever since BC WoW has implemented 2 instances in the first raid tier of an expansion. We are seeing, so far, the same model in TOR. Cataclysm was the exception to this in WoW but the raids easily were considered one raid as clearing both BOT/BWL in one night was common place.

Thought #2 TOR raids are too easy vs. WoW

False and LOL @ Cataclysm and Wrath. WoW raids haven't been difficult since BC and the 2nd and 3rd tiers of the past 2 expansions, even on HM, difficulty has been laughable. The first tier in Cataclysm was easy before everyone complained of its difficulty and subsequently got nerfed. Although the difficulty in TOR isn't very high WoW is not any more difficult.

Thought #3 There is nothing to do in TOR at endgame vs. WoW

And what is there to do in WoW? Farm dailies, grind dungeons, raid, farm achievements. Looks pretty similar to the TOR endgame to me. No, TOR doesn't have as many dailies but we're really splitting hairs here. There are no achievements in TOR as of yet but if you are farming achievements you must be pretty bored with a game to do so. MMO's have a grind to get gear at endgame and TOR hasn't changed anything up.

Thought #4 TOR is more aimed at casuals than WoW

Really? LFR is all that needs to be said on that. There is nothing wrong with being a casual, some people realize life is more important than a video game but you can't say WoW isn't aimed at a casual market. In this day and age all MMO's are going to be catering to a casual audience, that is how the market has changed and this is how developer's are going to adapt to stay afloat int he marketplace.

I was not a shot at saying TOR is better than WoW, everyone has their own opinion. These are just some facts that I wanted to throw out there that really in some circumstance these games are pretty even leveled.
Is this a troll?? I can't be sure. I played WoW in beta and up to frozen throne. During vanilla wow, I was a competetive raider who claimed every server first through BWL.

Comparing eternity vault to Molten Core is hilarious. PUGs can fumble through EV in 4 or 5 hours.

Many of your points are talking about expanions in WoW? We're talking about launch WoW and launch ToR. TOR does not have the depth of content that WoW has. The fights are simpler, hard mode dungeons are a joke because they hinge entirely on an enrage mechanic which dumbs the entire experience down to a gear check, the end game crafting is currently laughable, the pvp system is a joke.

I was one of the first 50s on my server in WoW. I continued to play that game for hours each night before there were even enough people to run a raid. I have played less than 20 hours since hitting 50 in TOR. I've seen EV, I've seen pvp, and there's nothing to do in the world.

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Raeln
03.01.2012 , 01:37 PM | #164
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More sense than on a planet where it's perpetually the same time, all day, every day.
Negative.

It's far easier to believe that you are not on the planet's surface for days at a time than it is to log in at 2am server time and see no change in the NPC population. They are all still standing there, patiently waiting for you to come talk to them. They have no lives of their own, no need for sleep, no need to eat, nothing.

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NDiggy
03.01.2012 , 01:38 PM | #165
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You also forgot the impossible/bugged bosses they threw in more then once. A lot of world first where subsequently followed by the patch to fix the exploit that was used to down them.
I think you are mistaken sir. WoW was the bestest game evar and Blizzards is the mostest amazingest devloper in tha worlds. Nevar could there be bugs in the World of Warcraft! Simply working in the building next door to Blizzard means your poo will never stink due to your proximity to the greatness that is Blizzard and WoW.
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Snibb
03.01.2012 , 01:42 PM | #166
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I think you are mistaken sir. SWTOR was the bestest game evar and BW is the mostest amazingest devloper in tha worlds. Nevar could there be bugs in the SWTOR! Simply working in the building next door to BW means your poo will never stink due to your proximity to the greatness that is BW and SWTOR.
Fixed for ya.
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Elwacko
03.01.2012 , 01:50 PM | #167
wrong.

please restate all material, giving exact and detailed walkthroughs.

stating vague examples, which aren't even examples, creates a wasted post and is taking up time on these forums.

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Sathid
03.01.2012 , 01:52 PM | #168
As an EQ2 player myself and most that have played EQ2 for years and raided consider WoW kiddy and frankly a very dumbed down game,how anyone can call themselves a hardcore raider or something that played WoW is beyond me.


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WindywaIker
03.01.2012 , 01:53 PM | #169
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While I hate the bloated blizzard monster pig as much the the next guy, to suggest that swtor has even a fraction of its content is laughable, no matter how you look at it. With 3 years of dev love swtor still couldnt match that behemoth for content...



Unfortunately, all of WoW's content is the same boring grind.
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WindywaIker
03.01.2012 , 01:56 PM | #170
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I think you are mistaken sir. WoW was the bestest game evar and Blizzards is the mostest amazingest devloper in tha worlds. Nevar could there be bugs in the World of Warcraft! Simply working in the building next door to Blizzard means your poo will never stink due to your proximity to the greatness that is Blizzard and WoW.

Delusional thoughts.
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