WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

Yea

• Gaining 10 levels ACHIEVEMENT!
• Almost falling to my death ACHIEVEMENT!
• Maxing a profession ACHIEVEMENT!

Riveting end game content right there.
I don't count Achievements as end game content. Also even though it's not as "engaging" there's the Codex system here. What's your point? Mine still stands.
There's almost the same amount of END GAME content in SW:TOR after 2 months as there is in World of Warcraft after 7-8 years.

And I disagree. Then again I do not level every character the same way. I do not grind out every single possible quest with each character so I'm not doing the same thing every character. That's just me. After my first character left DK I was so over level I skipped Balmora just to be at the level of a planet. Guess what my alt did? NOT every quest in DK and some in Balmora. I still got a tun of stuff I did NOT do on that planet so guess what happens with another alt? You got it. More quests I did not do.

How many quests has WoW where your choices MATTER?






Funny right?
Thank you for proving my point for me.

Your point doesn't stand at all. The achievements tab in WoW operates as a list of suggestions of things to do at max level.

Want crazy grinds? There's The Insane. PvP? Battlemaster. Crafting? Chef and Salty. Want to explore every single inch of the world map? The Explorer. There's even achievements for collecting recipes and non-combat pets.

Already ran every heroic and raid until you're blue in the face? Go for the Hero and Glory achievements with your group, which require very specific changes to play style during boss fights to make them more difficult.

All of these come with specific perks, from titles to mounts, tabards and exclusive in game items.

None of them are easy to get, because they require serious time commitments from the player, the full participation of a group, or both.

The point is, Blizzard's system adds incentives to doing things in game you've already done, adds new wrinkles and complexity to old content, and encourages you to do things you might not have done on your own.

So aside from being an in game guide at max level, the achievement system adds an enormous amount of replay value during endgame.

There is nothing at all similar in SWTOR. For reasons that should be absurdly obvious, Codex entries and Datacrons don't even come close.

In TOR your choice doesnt count anyway... isnt a sandbox... is a thempark game like Wow.

Actually some ppl is playin just to accumulate achievement. You can call'em dumb or silly but in some cases is really funny tryin to get somethin.
Sometimes achievements are more fun than guesting: f.e. the turkey achievement or School of hard knocks or others.
Actually i unsub Wow cuz im bored of it, and im continuin to play TOR instead, but for me is fun cuz is a new game SW branded... But isnt innovative at all... using mortar and granade with groups and blast against silver enemies 1000 times is a little repetetive...
Just a last note: there's no ironic content in this game (i think for precise statement of the SW brand).. But hell! Is a game... i love makin a smile or a laugh sometimes.. While was performin the singing flowers quest in Wow or when was dress'd with a murloc costume i had a good laugh.

Your choiced do very well count in SWTOR.
And not being a sandbox has nothing to do with it. Mass Effect and Dragon Age are also themepark games, yet your choices matter. WoW is also a themepark game, yes, but you don't even get to make choices there, let alone them mattering.

If you want a sandox MMO, you could like EVE (since SWG is dead). Problem with sandbox games is that they're often extremely difficult to get into and you need a very tight community to make them fun.

I disagree... the choice to kill or not an enemy and the subsequent different dialog with the General Garza (sorry for the reference but i have just this experience) for me doesnt mean counting.
Even light or dark side just lead to have different things to purchase. In any case im a casual player so i could have missed some contents: in that case im ready to give up.

wrong,
WoW is bad in every way , except for sub. numbers.

QFT

Achievements is not content