WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

I remember back when I played WoW all I would ever hear was, "The real game starts at *insert max level here*". Which, is great and all, but if the leveling bores me out of my mind, why would I invest the time to get to max level? I was rarely bored while questing in SWToR. I know that, fundamentally, the quests are the same for both games, but it really is the presentation that makes the difference for me.

Must be because SWTOR is too hard for you.

SWTOR- levelling alts
WoW- PVP and occassional raiding (+achievements)

Best of both worlds for me and the little free time i have.

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Smartest thing you can do is compare the leveling in SWTOR to the leveling in WoW. You are sure to find a long term game to hold your attention by only comparing leveling.

on a serious note, you left SWTOR at endgame because it bored you. Had you gotten to endgame in WoW you would have found alot more to do.

No, I have been playing since the start, and raided.

AQ40 was significantly harder than anything else we'd seen at the time, but it was not hard by modern standards. Take dark glare, at the time a pretty punishing mechanic because it was a straight up one shot that could take out a lot of people at a time when one shot mechanics were still relatively rare. Now the one shot beams will come as a beam splitting the room into 4 pieces or in unpredictable ways (Sinestra).

My guild killed C'thun when it was current content, and we were average at best. Even at the time of our kill we still had people absolutely incapable of surviving a dark glare if their group was the one targeted. Show me a current content hard heroic fight where people can just die to mechanics and they'll get the kill anyway.

Old Naxx was hard, I did say it got harder as WoW went on, this is when it really started. C'thun was really only a warmup compared to a lot of Naxx. Even so, the people that cleared Naxx 40 when it was current content have actually gone out and said that heroic Ragnaros was harder.

I remember those days, clearing a heroic was an actual achievement. That has certainly changed a lot since TBC. I don't think that's a bad thing though, there's still more difficult challenges available for those who want them in raids.

Definitely one of the hardest, I won't dispute that.

Ulduar was one of the best raids WoW has seen imo. It had a great atmosphere, nice lore, an interesting optional boss (both from mechanics and lore point of view) and I enjoyed the concept of hard modes because of specific things done in the fight more than hard mode because you switched the difficulty slider. Firefighter remains one of my favorite fights I've ever done.

ICC was good. I felt Lich King delivered on creating a fight that was both fun and interesting while at the same time really giving you that epic feeling of fighting a crazy powerful being. I felt the same way about Illidan and especially about Kael'thas (the first time he shatters his room is just great), but for Arthas I felt they did a better job explaining just how a bunch of random clowns could defeat him (he was just toying with us until 10% when he should have taken it more seriously).

I never said this, I said skill was mostly optional for most 40 man content, which was true. It didn't get really hard until Nax. Even if we lob some AQ40 fights into the list of hard, that still leaves all of MC, all of BWL and a good chunk of AQ40 as being pretty easy where people could slack their way through it. I remember when damage meters came out and we found out most of our casters were auto wanding while our hunters were just auto shooting, not even pushing buttons, and we were already clearing BWL by then.

I tried playing WoW, I even played with some of my real world friends, but I couldn't get over how boring each quest was. A lot of it was just go and kill x creature, there was no real "cool" thing about it.

Also I found the grouping to be lackluster, must people never communicated during any of the PvP/Dungeons I went through. So, I don't hate WoW, but I don't see it as anything really as good as SWTOR.

The end game in WOW isn't any different than SWTOR, just less buggy.

MOP is going to be a bigger disaster than Cata was.

Funny i have been gone from wow for a while now was playing for 6 years. I got a free 10 day email from blizz to get me back. I still had wow on my pc, so thought oh why not. I loged in that lasted about 10 mins i loged out. So tried the next day that lasted about 30 mins. After i loged out i took wow of my pc.

It was a great game, kept me playign for 6 years, (5 of them raiding), but for me now wow is just something i can not get back into.

lol....

Well, WoW would make me appreciate a colecovision game. So I'm not sure how powerful of an argument this is.

I played WOW from beta and off and on through all expansions. Never went on Raids (hated them) my son who is now almost nine started playing at 2 and half years old. He learned how to use a PC due to that game. I had very good times. I stopped leveling at 49 and just did BGs for years before they made pvp count toward xp. I stopped playing that game ever since. I loved the pvp pre 50, but after that with DK ect... I never played again. My son still plays to this day but only on private servers. The need to raid killed it for me. Still a great game, but happy here for now.