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WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

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WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

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lineschmidt
02.28.2012 , 11:39 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobzitto View Post
No, my opinion is based on facts. Yours is based on lack of experience it would seem.
Did you get yours from Fallacies R' Us?

Because so far i haven't seen you present any facts at all to support it

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Bobzitto
02.28.2012 , 11:41 AM | #132
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Says the guy who has a long history of bashing the game yet is still posting here?
The ones 'bashing' the games are the ones who want to see it fixed and actually playable. Those saying the game is fine are just lying to themselves or haven't reached lvl 50 yet.
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OldBenSmokin
02.28.2012 , 11:41 AM | #133
Like I said Bob...

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lineschmidt
02.28.2012 , 11:42 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobzitto View Post
The ones 'bashing' the games are the ones who want to see it fixed and actually playable. Those saying the game is fine are just lying to themselves or haven't reached lvl 50 yet.
2 lvl 50s, enjoying the game

Stop liking what i don't like?

Or do you actually have those facts you claim your opinion is based on

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Marmerus
02.28.2012 , 11:45 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobzitto View Post
The ones 'bashing' the games are the ones who want to see it fixed and actually playable. Those saying the game is fine are just lying to themselves or haven't reached lvl 50 yet.
You don't need to reach any higher than level 10 to start seeing the flaws.
@ Bioware
Stop trolling the EU. Fix the downtimes to the middle of the night and not in the middle of the morning / day.

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vekkth
02.28.2012 , 11:47 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobzitto View Post
The ones 'bashing' the games are the ones who want to see it fixed and actually playable. Those saying the game is fine are just lying to themselves or haven't reached lvl 50 yet.
no, those who are bashing the game are just trying to cope the feeling of a disappointment they have. If you have a child, or worked with those, you know when in frustration they might try to attack the reason of their frustration, just to let it go. Animals, like high primates, do the same thing. Since they do not know what to do to "fix" their toy, they try to destroy it - just to get rid of the frustration.

Its a well known mechanism. On the other side, those who want the game to become better, work on providing relevant and well written feedback to devs, hoping to be heard in time.

I, for example, tried this when i encountered a "bug" that really hindered me in enjoying the game - the famous No Valor Gained on Ilum. I wrote a thread, wrote a q/a post, wrote numerous support tickets, since i was presented with zero attention i just canceled my sub - if anything changes in 20 days i still have on it, then - great, i will continue to play. If not - i will just leave. But i will never come and bash the game on the forums - well, i am a bit older then 4 y.o., and i think i am not a monkey either, tho a bit hairy atm.

Cheers

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Uniqorn
02.28.2012 , 11:53 AM | #137
I am so glad I NEVER EVER played WoW and never will!!!! So many people comparing this game to WoW I can laugh and move on since I played a different MMO instead and I can appreciate what BioWare has done with this game. I love it, enjoy the stories and when I am done with one story I will make another and try that one out. This game is different and refreshing and I look forward to watching this game develop and grow.

I knew when purchasing this game it was a story based game and not like most MMO's out there, thats what drew me in and keeps me here. I have played BW's console games and love them so I am not disappointed in this at all.

So to the OP..welcome back!

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DarthKhaos
02.28.2012 , 11:54 AM | #138
Some may agree with me, some may not about what I'm about to say.

A long time ago I gave up on being "hardcore" the time I played 53hrs straight in 3 days. NEVER again. Don't get me wrong I still maintained my level of skill and competitive edge but it no longer drives me. I log on whenever, I spend a lot of time just shooting the breeze and chatting with online friends.

Now firstly I enjoyed my time at World of Warcraft. It was the prime example of jack of all master of none. You can find better end game elsewhere, better pvp, better quest, all that jazz. However no other game before had good of all. That's what WoW brought to the table.

SW:TOR went extra casual. Focused on bringing a cinematic experience to the genre. I mean come on Star Wars originated from a cinematic media. The leveling is great, voice acting is wonderful, and there's other means of leveling in the game beside questing.

Now when it comes to end game the major complaint is that it's too easy. The gear is too attainable. Now I can only speculate but it could be they didn't want to try to lead players on with a long stick with a carrot on the end of it. They probably believed people will run the content just for the fun of it. I agree with this for PvP. PvE not so much however if you make PvP easy to attain and PvE hard to attain there's going to be a riot.

Now as for why I say this is a good, no great philosophy for PvP is this. I do not believe in PvPing to get gear. I believe in getting gear to PvP. I laugh when people say they got the best PvP gear so there's no reason to PvP. True competitive PvP happens when everyone has equivalent gear. If everyone can get the gear easy now your PvP battles come down to skill and not gear.

SW:TOR has a great base. Adding onto it will truly take this game to the next level. With a great leveling experience out of the way you can add extra areas to existing planets, new planets, toss in some sandbox elements, increase end game content, new class chapters, the list goes on. I believe focusing on bugs and some QOL features is a good choice this early on. They already have end game stuff planned in 1.2 which will be soon. I really don't understand why there is so much hate.

I stopped playing World of Warcraft for truly game breaking technical issues. Now when I say game breaking I am not talking about something like I can't notice the exact moment when my cooldown is ready, but I cannot physically play any character. I do not have this issue with SW:TOR. A lot of people don't. Some do. SW:TOR launch did not have mass servers down, bugs so bad that 2/3 of the game population couldn't play. Many many many.. Wait almost all game before, after and including WoW did.
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DarthKhaos
02.28.2012 , 11:58 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by oursacrifice View Post
Do you "rp walk" everywhere and never run?
This is funny because I sometimes walk through fleet. If you do it long enough you end up with a train of people walking behind you.
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Evolved_Monky
02.28.2012 , 11:58 AM | #140
Hated WoW. Not a fan of raids and grinding for gear, makes me feel like im working and not playing a game.

I just want Bio to add more epic stories like the class stories. Monthly planet stories with bi-monthly class stories.... I would pay up for a year....

But I know the vocal minority will QQ till they get more boring "endgame" then jump ship to QQ about another MMO's "endgame" and bio will give in and turn SWTOR into another cookie cutter bore fest.

I just wanted a never ending KOTOR online and I had it for a few months but in the end itll just turn into a "endgame" MMO that no one plays.

Last updates other than fixes were such a let down. I payed $50 bucks + $15 a month for a Bioware game not a Wannabe Blizzard game.