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DarthKhaos
03.05.2012 , 08:39 AM | #831
Quote: Originally Posted by Dumpiduke View Post
You can say this all you want, but the fact of the matter is that most people want some kind of reward for their time spent in the game--some sort of way to justify the time spent playing. Having fun IS rewarding, but for a game that's trying to entice players to stay hooked, you NEED to have that incentive to keep your player base forking out $15/month.
I guess we spend our money for different things. The fun and enjoyment I feel from playing is worth $15 for the entire month. I piece of pixilated gear will not make me feel as good as enjoyment and the stress relief I gain from having fun.
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Rahl_Windsong
03.05.2012 , 08:41 AM | #832
I totally agree with the OP on this issue and it seems anything that is even remotley in the difficult category is quashed by the dev's as soon as they can do it...

For an example I will point out the class quest at level 28 for the the Scoundrel and the Gunslinger, known as "The Lightspring"

This quest was quite difficult to complete because you had to learn how and when to use your interupt abilities and also maybe even learn to kite one boss away from the group so you can kill one at a time.

On the Smuggler forums peeps started to complain that this quest was to hard, can't complete it..etc, etc. So what does Bioware do? They give it the "EASY BUTTON" fix....

•The Lightspring: The toughness of Vaverone Zare and Nariel Pridence has been decreased. This mission can no longer be failed

I thought this quest was absolutely brilliant and I posted those thoughts in every single thread I could find complaining how difficult it was. So what do the dev's do?....



Pretty soon if they keep this up the only peeps playing SWTOR will be preschool kids because they will be the only ones who find any sort of challenge at all...
Captain El'amber Level 48.5 Scoundrel
Cipher Agent El'ember Level 42 Operative
Lord El'zara Level 40 Sorceress

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Dumpiduke
03.05.2012 , 08:49 AM | #833
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
I guess we spend our money for different things. The fun and enjoyment I feel from playing is worth $15 for the entire month. I piece of pixilated gear will not make me feel as good as enjoyment and the stress relief I gain from having fun.
Sadly, I fear that you're the minority. I commend your enthusiasm for the game and I'm glad you're enjoying it without having to feel superior to those around you. The game really does need more players like you, but unfortunately, I fear the game's longevity as a P2P model doesn't ride on the likes of your kind as much as it does the competitive, epeen market

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Kfab
03.05.2012 , 09:08 AM | #834
Quote: Originally Posted by Oakmend View Post
Carebears are the worst thing to happen to any MMO.

Carebear: - "I want stuff, but I don't want to have to invest any time or effort into it"

Games Designer:- "But what about the challenge, and the intricate narrative we have woven into the game experience?"

Carebear:- "If I'm not level 50 in a week and in full Rakata by the end of the day I'm quitting"

Games Designer:- "But if we give you everything, you will have earnt nothing. Its like giving Joe Public a Gold at the Olympics just so its would be fair"

Carebear:- "Look challenging content eats into my "fun" time. Its better if you just give me everything I want now so I can go back to having "fun" not really doing anything because there is no need for me to because I already have everything. Also while you're at it, I need you to nerf all content into the ground so I can do it without having to try, because trying means its hard and hard takes time and I only have time for "fun""

Games Designer:- "I don't know why I bothered"
Stopped reading at "Carebear". If you have an opinion, by all means state it but quit using stupid memes to make your point.
I shot first!

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Matte_Black
03.05.2012 , 09:08 AM | #835
Quote: Originally Posted by Dumpiduke View Post
Sadly, I fear that you're the minority. I commend your enthusiasm for the game and I'm glad you're enjoying it without having to feel superior to those around you. The game really does need more players like you, but unfortunately, I fear the game's longevity as a P2P model doesn't ride on the likes of your kind as much as it does the competitive, epeen market
I like the game that SWTOR is. I am actually looking forward to other big MMO releases that might cater to the harder-core crowd to draw off that part of the population to where they'd be happier and allow this game to continue to do what it does and develop into the casual alternative. It seems like it would be a better situation all around if the market offered some variety instead of every game trying (unsuccessfully) to be all things to all gamers.
"I really wanted to bring in the three BioWare pillars to the online space. Those are represented by story, by the player's choice in story, and by characters. Those are the three big things that I felt weren't really well represented in the MMO space." - James Ohlen

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Matte_Black
03.05.2012 , 09:08 AM | #836
Quote: Originally Posted by Kfab View Post
Stopped reading at "Carebear". If you have an opinion, by all means state it but quit using stupid memes to make your point.
/agree
"I really wanted to bring in the three BioWare pillars to the online space. Those are represented by story, by the player's choice in story, and by characters. Those are the three big things that I felt weren't really well represented in the MMO space." - James Ohlen

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MMornard
03.05.2012 , 10:36 AM | #837
Quote: Originally Posted by RabidPopcorn View Post
Interesting, so you're saying you solo MMOs...
Actually, I mostly dual MMOs. I play with my wife. SWTOR is wonderful, it's just like playing a really really BIG game of KOTOR, but we can play together.

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MMornard
03.05.2012 , 10:40 AM | #838
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
what the h e l l is "epeen"
I believe it's an abbreviation for "electronic p e n i s," referring to "macho" gamers waving their electronic phalli in an online equivalent of baboons showing their red and blue butts to each other to establish dominance.

I always thought "macho" meant you spent Saturday night schtupping the entire cheerleader squad, not that you played a computer game until a certain combination of bits was transmitted to your computer.

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MMornard
03.05.2012 , 10:44 AM | #839
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
I guess we spend our money for different things. The fun and enjoyment I feel from playing is worth $15 for the entire month. I piece of pixilated gear will not make me feel as good as enjoyment and the stress relief I gain from having fun.
I feel much the same way you do. I'm 56, how old are you?

I suspect age, or more likely "life experience," has a lot to do with this. I don't need "rewards" other than a fun game, and I don't need to "improve my leet skillz;" I'm improving my skills by getting my second Master's degree, thanks for asking. I've done a fair amount of stuff in real life; this game is an idle doodle for me.

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MMornard
03.05.2012 , 10:45 AM | #840
Quote: Originally Posted by Matte_Black View Post
/agree
And I as well.