This game lacks epeen

I really doubt it; you haven't even moved on from this thread.

Anyway, you're stereo-typing anyone who expresses displeasure with the game.

I see you're enjoying PvP; I played Mythic's boxed PvP in WAR. I'm really glad I complained about tank-specific contribution rewards back in WAR, because they actually implemented them in TOR.

If only they had applied that kind of intelligence to the rest of the game, instead of some level of derp I can't quite comprehend (because they said alot of the right things).

So the hardcore minority is not playing anymore while the casual majority is enjoying the game?

See that's the problem, lack of quality endgame to begin with. Had Bioware put proper endgame difficulties into the game they wouldn't have to be pushing for another patch so quickly. If they would just adhere to doing it right the first time around then they wouldn't be bleeding subs and trying to push content so quickly. As is endgame is terrible and they've done nothing but made it worse with nerfs.

Interesting, so you're saying you solo MMOs...

The old model, the ahrdcore were used to, was group were required.

Welcome to the new MMO model where group are optional, and you can *solo* a MMO up to last level.

See, by doing this they reach up to a more massive market. those who with to group still can, whereas the massive amount of casual player won't be forced to. And this is how the 100K subs of yesteryear "successful MMO" get eclipsed by multi million subs MMO : the multi million subs MMo simply more and more drop the hard core for casual, and since casual don't seem to care much on epeen.... I don't need to draw you a picture.

I find it odd that MMO's require a reward to give incentive to play.

Where's the reward in most FPS and RTS games? de_dust in Counterstrike, played litterally 339 billion times with zip reward. Why can't one enjoy a WZ without a carrot being offered?

I agree with you there. People refuse to PvP BECAUSE they have the best gear. HUH!?!? NOW is the time to PvP BECAUSE you got the good gear.

This game has no epeen factor or skill factor and that is why my server is dying fast.

We have 4 guilds that have cleared all nightmare 16 man raid content. Countless others doing 8 man.

Most pvpers got all the battlemaster gear and I never see them on anymore because they either quit or are waiting for some sort of incentive to log in again.

I don't think this game lacked endgame content, it was just way too easy to beat and way too easy to get all the gear in the game, pve and pvp.

Whatever hardcore playerbase was/is here needs challenging content and a reason to farm it. Quality pvp players need a competitive situation and not just a stupid RNG grind.

1.2 better hurry and it better be incredible, with rated warzones and compelling/challenging content.............but it might already be too late.

You can argue all day about game is failing/successful or thriving/dying but I can only tell you what I witness on my own server as someone who cares, and I have seen our pop dwindling, with our hardcore playerbase bleeding out extremely fast.

Maybe you want the more hardcore players gone, maybe you dislike them for whatever reason, but the hardcore playerbase is a good base of an MMO, you don't want to lose them.

In short, this game needs more epeen and reasons for hardcore players to keep playing.

It is a short window to keep us here before we move onto the next big thing or end up going back to MMO's that we came from that are simply doing it better. I was patient, gave game a couple of months, wasn't going to jump ship so fast, but time is running short.

You only hear or have bad experiences with the minority of hardcore players. The majority of them are good people who absolutely drive MMO's because they care.

They are the ones who create awesome websites with strats and videos for bosses, or the math nerds who theorycraft all the best specs and how to gear and spreadsheets and 3rd party programs to make the game better if you are into that stuff.

They are the ones who are comfortable leading PUG raids (ops) in their sparetime or leading rated pvp teams.

They are the ones who run smaller dungeon/flashpoint content multiple times looking for specific gear or trying out a new spec or playing alts or maybe even just for fun, while a casual may run it only once just to see it, this makes more groups happening and more often!

They are the ones who run the best guilds and push content and develop rivalries and server communities in both PVE and PVP.

They are the ones who are very active on the GTN and help drive the server economy.

They are the ones willing to test new content on patches on the test servers.

You may not want to believe it or care, but losing your hardcore playerbase has a very important trickle down effect on the servers. They are the players that are around the most and you will notice it when they are gone, I already am noticing it and it is not good.

Edit: Added one of my other posts to this as I felt it was relevant and helped add to my original point.