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Arkerus
02.28.2012 , 07:30 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Terans View Post
I'm a casual player.

I agree that gear is far too easy to get. There's no incentive for me to run HM because I don't need the gear.
You don't need any gear. Its a video game.


5-10% of the playerbase ever sees a raid (this is from the WoW devs). I am not that concerned about it right now. More content is coming. If you beat everything already and have full battlemaster, you need to go outside.

If bioware just up and left, then we would have an issue. We know more content is coming.
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Vincire
02.28.2012 , 07:34 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Apocalypsezero View Post
So the hardcore minority is not playing anymore while the casual majority is enjoying the game?
And they will be the first to jump all over requests for casual non- raid endgame alternatives and expect us to be happy with our six dailies.
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TKMaster
02.28.2012 , 07:35 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Akirator View Post
Well from I was able to gather from all that, I think that system would have been awesome and they totally should have done it.

Also the more I read on here, the more I'm starting to think we have entirely different definitions of hardcore players. My "hardcore", of which I am a member, is simply somebody who just wants a nice hard challenging game, nothing more. I'm taking your definition of "hardcore" as people who are like "I can do raidz and you can't, I'm so awesome!".

I call those people jerks, and they are most definitely not the ones I'm talking about.
And they call you a noob.

You are in a teeny tiny minority sir. Good for you for not letting video game acomplishments go to your head.
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Zilliztra
02.28.2012 , 07:35 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Lazirus- View Post
I completely and utterly agree. The only qualm that I have with SW:TOR is that it lacks any means of hardcore grinding with a substantive reward.
Exacly. I have canceled my sub, and 'might' come back if they add this.

I will not pay for a game that only lets me roll alts or play piss easy content.

There is the issue: The so called "hardcore players" just goes though the content faster than the "softcore players". This means that in a few months the softcore people will come to the EXACT same conclusion.

But usually people are to .... to see this.

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Lord_Theodorus
02.28.2012 , 07:49 AM | #75
The problem is that you nedd some challenging content because there are those players out ther that want a challenge.... without challenge its just boring grind to get the gear... with challenge you are proud to get the gear and yes ok you want to show it to everyone but al little show-off is ok....

Hardcore Players want a challenge.... some want to show-off with the gear on the cantina only ... some like it to puzzle around to show-off with a guide that everybody reads to master the challenge...or they want to be king of the hill....

it's good that there are hardcore players for the community and it's good to have a challenge for everyone....

WOW was too hard in some way but i remember some raids who made mee proud off my guildies in "classic" WOW (T1-T2) more challenge will give to community better endgame content.... no challenge and TOR will not even get enough paid accounts to survive....

TOR has a good story but in endgame you need challenge... even 8 storyline quests will be done some day give us both.... story and challenge...

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Khaylani
02.28.2012 , 08:10 AM | #76
This has happened in every mmorpg which has been released since World of Warcraft, and no matter how unique or close to WoW the game is the "hardcore" come out and start attacking the game in the forums. It's always something that's "not catered for the hardcore community" and which will make them leave the game. Here you complain that the raids are too easy, while (more than likely the same) people complained that Age of Conan was "too grindy" and the raids were too hard, Rift was too easy, STO was retarded, Aion/WAR was too much of a grind etc etc.

The conclusion I've come to is that the compaints aren't so much about what they've done "wrong", but that the game isn't World of Warcraft, because they always go back there no matter how "crappy" the post WoW has become...

As long as Blizzard can do no wrong everyone else will fail in this group's eyes, no matter what they do...

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

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Vagessel
02.28.2012 , 08:37 AM | #77
The "hardcore" minority, those who need e peen and self esteem out of obtaining rewards and feelings of superiority out of sitting endless hours playing a computer game

Will
Never
Be
Happy
Or
Pleased

They will never be satisfied, once metrics are introduced they will always find something to complain about, nerf crusades, what have you.

That minority of the eubscriber population generally thrives by alienating the casual playerbase. They don't make community, they make drama, and drive mainstream players away.

It's inevitable, because damage meters are coming. But if you think this game's community - specifically the forumgoing one - is bad and unpleasant, it's only going to get worse.

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Wazooty
02.28.2012 , 08:41 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Vagessel View Post
The "hardcore" minority, those who need e peen and self esteem out of obtaining rewards and feelings of superiority out of sitting endless hours playing a computer game

Will
Never
Be
Happy
Or
Pleased

They will never be satisfied, once metrics are introduced they will always find something to complain about, nerf crusades, what have you.

That minority of the eubscriber population generally thrives by alienating the casual playerbase. They don't make community, they make drama, and drive mainstream players away.

It's inevitable, because damage meters are coming. But if you think this game's community - specifically the forumgoing one - is bad and unpleasant, it's only going to get worse.
There
is
absolutely
zero
content
in
this
game
that
is
even
remotely
challenging

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Stupiddrummer
02.28.2012 , 08:44 AM | #79
OP, You're spot on.

This game needs a Hand of Rag. I never got one, or had a character that could even use one if i did (druid lol).

But man, seeing those few people on my server back in Vanilla with a giant fiery hammer, that, i knew i would never ever get, was still that awesome. I was fine with the fact i couldn't invest the time or man power to get this gear. It didn't stop me from dreaming...

the important thing is that it was an item exclusive to top tier players, and it's very existence in the game and the few times i would see someone equipped with it in a capital city, really made my play experience THAT much better.

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CommonKnowledge
02.28.2012 , 08:46 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Vagessel View Post
That minority of the eubscriber population generally thrives by alienating the casual playerbase. They don't make community, they make drama, and drive mainstream players away.
Because creating player guides, boss tactic videos, optimal talents specs, profession power levelling guides, levelling guides and PUG raids is just one slap in the face after another for casual players.