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Bladedakoda
02.28.2012 , 03:12 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Akirator View Post
My entire argument is NOT "gimme gimme i want to feel special", its "if they did how exactly would that hurt you?"

And regardless of what you think is qq, you haven't actually countered my argument. You just gave an example of Blizzard making a mistake that has nothing to do with my argument.
I don't have to counter it, i have given facts, and the fact is even in wow HM had to be nerfed, in order for most so called hardcore players to clear it. Like edited in my last post, Paragon players were baned for 8 days for exploiting the raids in order to progress. And it was not the first time players from so called hardcore guilds have been baned.

It does not affect me i could care less. The funny thing is, the hardcore only end up hurting themselfs and ultimately the game. Because everytime people say a game needs to be harder, then everything becomes harder not just a small part of the game.

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Akirator
02.28.2012 , 05:24 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Bladedakoda View Post
I don't have to counter it, i have given facts, and the fact is even in wow HM had to be nerfed, in order for most so called hardcore players to clear it. Like edited in my last post, Paragon players were baned for 8 days for exploiting the raids in order to progress. And it was not the first time players from so called hardcore guilds have been baned.

It does not affect me i could care less. The funny thing is, the hardcore only end up hurting themselfs and ultimately the game. Because everytime people say a game needs to be harder, then everything becomes harder not just a small part of the game.
If you don't feel the need to counter my argument, then why are you even talking to me? It might be different if the "facts" you gave had anything to do with my argument, but nerfing one boss because they overtuned it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

And again, the ban you're talking about is because Paragon wanted to gear faster, it had nothing to do with them needing to do that to actually progress in content.

As far making everything harder that's entirely the devs fault and not what is being asked for by the group I'm referring to.
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Akirator
02.28.2012 , 05:27 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
If it's just for "Hard" modes, why the "own stuff" that the casuals would not have a chance to get, thereby actually affecting the casuals.

Better equipment does mean better equipped, which can make a big difference in a WZ, or even OPs.

Try like we used to, raid naked.
It only affects the casuals if they absolutely have to have that stuff, and if they do, then the only thing preventing them from getting it is themselves.

And I wasn't aware that you could get better PVP gear doing this stuff than you could get from actually PVPing, which is the only way you're argument makes any sense.

As far as OPs go, they do that mainly with their own group of likeminded individuals, so how exactly does that have any effect whatsoever on your groups?
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Vincire
02.28.2012 , 05:38 AM | #54
Games such as this one cannot afford to cater to the small minority of hardcore players else they risk alienating their core customer base. I don't raid or do hardmode flashpoints and so I have even less reason to play my 50s yet I am still playing on alts. Maybe these hardcore types should stop expecting content being crafted especially for them and then delivered to them on a silver platter.
Judan Dalratha -- 65 Jedi Guardian

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Agenteusa
02.28.2012 , 05:42 AM | #55
who needs an epeen factor?

My joy is to find you in pvp and beating you along with downing content. Gear is a bonus.

I like how some people say "oh I got to battlemaster so now I´m taking some time off cause I have no content or oh I got full BM gear so I don´t have anything to do now".

You have. Continue fighting , improving , having fun and enjoying your new gear .

Tbh if your concept of fun is getting the best gear you won´t enjoy most mmo´s imo since you can get most of it pretty quickly.

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daMarek
02.28.2012 , 05:43 AM | #56
If you don't raid it's your own fault and you are voluntary missing out on half the content.

It's the same as buying CoD and only doing the single player missions - you are missing out on half the game by your own choice

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Akirator
02.28.2012 , 05:46 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Vincire View Post
Games such as this one cannot afford to cater to the small minority of hardcore players else they risk alienating their core customer base. I don't raid or do hardmode flashpoints and so I have even less reason to play my 50s yet I am still playing on alts. Maybe these hardcore types should stop expecting content being crafted especially for them and then delivered to them on a silver platter.
I don't think you understand what catering means. We're not asking to take anything away from you or change your game to suit us. We're asking for a tiny piece to be added for us that in no way affects your gameplay.

But apparently what you want is 100% of this game targeted specifically at you and hardcores get nothing.
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Warjhinn
02.28.2012 , 05:51 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by _Myth_ View Post
This game lacks progression based third party websites basically =) give it time. Rome wasnt built in a day.
You say that, and it's true, but this community will say "That was then, this is now, I expect my Rome to suddenly appear fully formed and with more amenities than the original."

It's the Me Generation meets the Now Generation.
Patience my young Padawan. In time, all will be revealed.

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Vincire
02.28.2012 , 05:52 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Akirator View Post
I don't think you understand what catering means. We're not asking to take anything away from you or change your game to suit us. We're asking for a tiny piece to be added for us that in no way affects your gameplay.

But apparently what you want is 100% of this game targeted specifically at you and hardcores get nothing.
Hardcore players already have raids with multiple levels of difficulty. I don't raid and therefore I do not see these places. You hardcore types already see more of the game than I do. What more do you want? Why do you and your kind always have to feel like you're somehow superior to everyone else...in a video game?
Judan Dalratha -- 65 Jedi Guardian

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Akirator
02.28.2012 , 05:57 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Vincire View Post
Hardcore players already have raids with multiple levels of difficulty. I don't raid and therefore I do not see these places. You hardcore types already see more of the game than I do. What more do you want? Why do you and your kind always have to feel like you're somehow superior to everyone else...in a video game?
How is wanting something that challenges us "feeling superior"?

And I never said I wanted more than we have now, maybe you should read the entire argument. It started when people said they should take away what we already have because it's somehow unfair to casual players.
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