This game lacks epeen

This game has no epeen factor or skill factor and that is why my server is dying fast.

We have 4 guilds that have cleared all nightmare 16 man raid content. Countless others doing 8 man.

Most pvpers got all the battlemaster gear and I never see them on anymore because they either quit or are waiting for some sort of incentive to log in again.

I don't think this game lacked endgame content, it was just way too easy to beat and way too easy to get all the gear in the game, pve and pvp.

Whatever hardcore playerbase was/is here needs challenging content and a reason to farm it. Quality pvp players need a competitive situation and not just a stupid RNG grind.

1.2 better hurry and it better be incredible, with rated warzones and compelling/challenging content.............but it might already be too late.

You can argue all day about game is failing/successful or thriving/dying but I can only tell you what I witness on my own server as someone who cares, and I have seen our pop dwindling, with our hardcore playerbase bleeding out extremely fast.

Maybe you want the more hardcore players gone, maybe you dislike them for whatever reason, but the hardcore playerbase is a good base of an MMO, you don't want to lose them.

In short, this game needs more epeen and reasons for hardcore players to keep playing.

It is a short window to keep us here before we move onto the next big thing or end up going back to MMO's that we came from that are simply doing it better. I was patient, gave game a couple of months, wasn't going to jump ship so fast, but time is running short.

You only hear or have bad experiences with the minority of hardcore players. The majority of them are good people who absolutely drive MMO's because they care.

They are the ones who create awesome websites with strats and videos for bosses, or the math nerds who theorycraft all the best specs and how to gear and spreadsheets and 3rd party programs to make the game better if you are into that stuff.

They are the ones who are comfortable leading PUG raids (ops) in their sparetime or leading rated pvp teams.

They are the ones who run smaller dungeon/flashpoint content multiple times looking for specific gear or trying out a new spec or playing alts or maybe even just for fun, while a casual may run it only once just to see it, this makes more groups happening and more often!

They are the ones who run the best guilds and push content and develop rivalries and server communities in both PVE and PVP.

They are the ones who are very active on the GTN and help drive the server economy.

They are the ones willing to test new content on patches on the test servers.

You may not want to believe it or care, but losing your hardcore playerbase has a very important trickle down effect on the servers. They are the players that are around the most and you will notice it when they are gone, I already am noticing it and it is not good.

Edit: Added one of my other posts to this as I felt it was relevant and helped add to my original point.

There is tons to do , there is really tons and tons to do , if you want to be helpfull and productive society member of this game .
there isn´t anything to do , when you are selfishe **** who only thinks , what do I get out of it .

Here a list what Old hardcore players from EQ SWG -WOW did for the community .
They boosted and helped starting guilds , they help gear up guild masters.
So those in turn can raid themself without there help .

You can keep on running hardmode flashpoints even if you don´t need the gear.
Cause helping others enjoy and geared isn´t beter experience for them ?
Well it is the F off mentality and thank you but thanks for nothing .
That make most helpfull people , why should I stress and feel annoyed .
When I have a beter time doing nothing ..

Sorry people saying there is nothing to do , I call shennigan , cause there is nothing to do for them .
Nothing wrong with that , but don´t expect the next MMO to be any different .

Yes, it's already happening; some hardcore players are leaving, because this game isn't centered around them, and some of them think games HAVE to center around the hardcore, or they'll inexorably fail. This beief isn't unusual or surprising. Guilds full of hardcore players will tend to come and go together, and from their perspective, "everyone" is leaving. This isn't however true at all - just a selection bias at work.

This remembers me of some folks playing Skyrim , going through the main story and then qq´ing in the forums that the game was a deception cause it was over too fast.

You cannot compare a game with so much content and freedom to SWTOR.

Please note that you are confusing having a lot of time, with being good. Finishing content before others does not mean in any way shape or form, that you are a quality player.

You cannot compare a game with so much content and freedom to SWTOR.

Exactly. Is it rocket science? No. Is it harder than soloing? Of course.

Many people find they cannot follow directions, be patient, work as a team. Its a different type of play that not every is able to grasp.

If it were so easy, everyone would do it. My old raiding guild only raided 2 days a week for 3 hours each day. Most self proclaimed casual players put in more time than that.

Apart from being RPGs, both games are almost polar opposites in just about every aspect I still like both of them though.