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This game lacks epeen


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Stupiddrummer
02.29.2012 , 10:42 AM | #321
Quote: Originally Posted by ThreeDGrunge View Post
Wow was the easiest mmo to release at the time. It had absolutely no difficult content (raiding at endgame for the same gear everyone else has is not content). WOW was the first mmo to hold your hand the entire time you played. It brought to the mmo universe nothing but a scourge of terrible gamers that merely want to be at the end as fast as possible so they can be the same like everyone else.
my vanilla guild would like a word with you. we spent at least a month on the first boss of BWL.

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Vlaxitov
02.29.2012 , 10:48 AM | #322
Quote: Originally Posted by Clawrod View Post
You surely have a ego problem... anyway im old school and i have been playing on line since there was Internet. And from experience let me tell you Mr. L33t that no matter what gear you got, what imba end game sward you managed to roll a 93 on, a bad player will always be bad.
atm im not hardcore as i use to be because i have a job and a family to look after and still, with my semi-good pvp gear (mix of centurion and Champion) i manage to solo Battlemasters.
You say I have an ego problem then boast about you're accomplishments in this game despite being a superior human being with more important things to do than someone who does better at online games than you. What a joke. Try joining an amature baseball league, then tell the people who play better than you that its due to a combo of them affording better equipment and having a crappier meaningless life compared to you thus they have more hours to practice, and see how long you last. Only online anonymity could make someone comfortable enough to spew the nonesense you did right here.

Quote: Originally Posted by Clawrod View Post
I really dont give a rats behind about how awesome ppl think they are because they got the uber weapon or whatever end game gear they got thinks to the OPS mates with close to none personal skill.
What does anything have to do with a bad thinking hes awesome because he got carried to gear in past mmos. In this game a bad doesen't need carried to gear, its handed to you in the first month or two of playing it. Tell me why should I continue to pay a fee for a game I've already beaten with nothing else to aspire for? That might be great for people who play this game 1-2 hours a week. I currently play this game 4 hours a week. Wanna know why? Its because I log on to do my weekly LBRS/UBRS runs in a couple different modes.


Quote: Originally Posted by Clawrod View Post
Imo ppl that QQ about not being one of the 3 in server with the hardcore-close to impossible to get-eliteist-rare-ultra mega gear is because it gives them some kind of advantage when fighting ppl with lesser gear.
I keep hearing this fallacy parroted over and over. Some mmo devs say very few completed, I repeat, COMPLETED the raid content and you loud & proud welfare recipients misquote it as very few people raided at all. You're lying and even if you weren't, if you didn't raid then you wanted to and that gave you a reason to play the game beyond a single player RPG. If you look at population trends in most current mmos, the pattern represents about how long I stay interested in a single player RPG and why shouldn't it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Clawrod View Post
Bring it on baby... ill even let you open on me.
Again, coming from a guy who says I have an ego problem, lulz.

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Aepervius
02.29.2012 , 10:51 AM | #323
Quote: Originally Posted by Vyvian View Post
Alright, I'll accept your response to my specific post. However, why are casuals complaining about players who want something a little bit more challenging? What's the deal with that? Same gear in Normal as in Hard & Nightmare. Why are they so vocal to stop some challenging content?
Because the time spent making the same content harder, by dev and artist, for 5% server population at best, could be much better spent doing new planet, new story, new stuff which caters to 95-100% of the population. Clear ?
Tempus Fugit : Omnes Vulnerant, Ultima Necat Ergo Memento Mori .

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Aepervius
02.29.2012 , 10:53 AM | #324
Quote: Originally Posted by Vyvian View Post
Don't you think the hard core players also want to see the bugs fixed? Hard core players don't want new content either?

Did you not type that out properly?

All of those things you claim are desired by each type of player. There's no reason for the casual players to cry about hard core players wanting more of a challenge.
development is not an infinite resource. If part of the team is doing stuff nightmare/hellish/godhard for the hardcore , then that part of the team is not doing anything else for the 95% rest. Is that so hard to understand ?
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Mynden
02.29.2012 , 10:54 AM | #325
Quote: Originally Posted by Aepervius View Post
Because the time spent making the same content harder, by dev and artist, for 5% server population at best, could be much better spent doing new planet, new story, new stuff which caters to 95-100% of the population. Clear ?
Which without a reasonable challenge to it will be consumed within a week or 2 by everyone, and we'll be right back where we are now. Not logging on with nothing to do.
Use the link for free stuff (including a server transfer)
http://www.swtor.com/r/DMvJV3

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DrShikima
02.29.2012 , 10:55 AM | #326
So, the bulk of the arguments on here feel they need epeen because said lives are lacking any significance or direction and all energies must be focused on a video game as a livelihood?

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Mynden
02.29.2012 , 10:59 AM | #327
Quote: Originally Posted by DrShikima View Post
So, the bulk of the arguments on here feel they need epeen because said lives are lacking any significance or direction and all energies must be focused on a video game as a livelihood?
Logical fallacy considering you're the one advocating everyone gets their special feeling from a videogame. We're asking for a challenge that we may or may not complete.
Use the link for free stuff (including a server transfer)
http://www.swtor.com/r/DMvJV3

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Arkerus
02.29.2012 , 11:01 AM | #328
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
I was on my third mmo by the time WoW came out. WoW was the first for your kind, and thats the problem. Like I said, with the so called dead model you keep taking to ad absurdum, craptons of people I knew progressively raided in the 1-2 days a week they played. You have brown colored glasses of bitterness for whatever reason you failed at vanilla WoW.

That low percentage you're misquoting and miscontruing from WoW dev's was them talking about the people who COMPLETED all the raid content, not just raided. Very very few beat the game, just as it should be. Its people who think their sub automatically entitles them to beat a game that has ruined online gaming over these past years. Thats why titles like CoD have stayed king for soo long, because you can't welfare away multiplayer FPS.

Name one mmo that has even held a candle to WoW's success and just like you keep saying to people, I want proof. People don't want welfare mmos, not casuals, not even bads. People need a reason to aspire to do better in all games let alone mmos. People who demand an entitled trophy really just want facebook with an avatar.
I've pretty much discounted everything you said since you can't get your facts straight.

You don't have the facts right.
You don't understand the basic build structure in today's games.
You don't even grasp the basic logic of what I said. NO one asked for free gear. No one logs on and gets free gear.

As other people have pointed out, your personal attacks and strawmen have made you out for what you are:

An elitist video game warrior who believes that all games should be built around their model.


Too bad its dead and gone. See ya later.

Anyone who puts in the effort can have the rewards, not just those who log on for hours because its all they do.
If that isn't your cup of tea...go play a Korean grinder.
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Stupiddrummer
02.29.2012 , 11:01 AM | #329
this game lacks aspirations.

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Aepervius
02.29.2012 , 11:04 AM | #330
Quote: Originally Posted by Mynden View Post
Which without a reasonable challenge to it will be consumed within a week or 2 by everyone, and we'll be right back where we are now. Not logging on with nothing to do.
No because the majority of the player base don't reach that point.

WOW own statistic was that less than 50% do raid, and less than 5% finish a raid tier before the next is published.

ONLY the hardcore finish that stuff in weeks. Casual are only *now* starting to reach the last level (if even that, I would be personally only going in the 40ish zone next week).
Tempus Fugit : Omnes Vulnerant, Ultima Necat Ergo Memento Mori .