This game lacks epeen

+1.

I enjoyed you posted this since I was kinda thinking if I should post that I also solo BM´s with my 1 piece centurion, 1 piece champion and 1 piece columni with my PT.

People still confuse hardcore with skill...pff...

untrue but even if it was true and you were a suit would you make a game to make the 10% Hardcore clients base happy or would you instead place ur money on the 90% casual player base?

I really don't like the use of hardcore and casually. I raid 9 hours per week during progression (3 hours now that it's all on farm) and aside from leveling my alt don't log on much. I've cleared everything in 16 man nightmare including the speed runs. I did it all in less than a month. I would wager I play significantly less than many people who call themselves casual. What this boils down to is some people want to be challenged, others want everything handed to them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You may not realize it, but you WANT a mountain to climb. It's what keeps you coming back. When you have nothing to shoot for you stop logging in.

You jsut sunk your own argument on why SWTOR should even *consider* hardcore player. See if as you say it takes a few month for the casual to come to the same conclusion, that in reality it means that the dev have many months to develop more endgame content, and by the time all casual reach end game they would have already something prepared. But if they cater to the hardcore community they have to out the content much faster, buggier, and with less planning.

In other word you gave ammunition to why dev should ignore the hardcore and concentrate on the casual which will give them time to develop much better and deeper content.

Your definition of casual is out of whack.

My thread sure has turned into alot of crying and nonsense.

I just realized something though, in this game so far, I was able to level up, grind battlemaster and the best pvp gear, and beat every size and difficulty raid encounter...........in roughly half the time it took our guild to progress on one boss in Firelands in WOW: Heroic Ragnaros pre 4.3.

That is just.........wrong.

Oh well, I am only here as long as my guild is, and it doesn't look like much longer unless 1.2 news is dropped soon and then the actual execution of it is amazing.

You have to realize some of us only play as long as our guilds do, people who have been playing together a long time, so you don't just bleed quality players, you will bleed entire quality guilds.

I have always defined hard-core and casual more by progression per hour played than by hours logged. It's how you come at playing the game more than how much you play. I think your casual player tends to view the play content as something to be savored while the hard-core views it(at least the levelling content) as an obstacle to overcome.

welcome back OP. You have created this monster of a thread so you will also be given the task of destroying it.

I get what you're saying, but I don't know if thats entirely accurate either. Many of the "casual" players I come across don't want to savor content. They flip if they can't clear it instantly. "It's too hard" or "I already have a job" are common complaints I hear if someone dares suggest things be in this game that require time and skill to accomplish.

I remember when I first got to 70 towards the end of BC in wow (late comer). I saw a guy from Deus Vox, who were at the time US #1 in all his Sunwell gear. I wanted that. I chased it. I never made it there, but by God it kept me logging in trying to get better. And I did get better. That's the unseen problem in all this. When everything is easy, you socially engineer your community to seek the path of least resistance. The game loses it's epic feel. I don't want to pretend my character is a bad *** because he killed some boss that's tough in lore, I want to feel like a good player because I did something that was difficult in execution. When everything is easy that sense of accomplishment goes with it.

Going to need to see some proof of all those accomplishments before I believe them. I know it seems silly but way to many people spout off things around here they never actually did.

I'll even come to you server if need be. Hows that?