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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

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MasterKayote

02.23.2012 , 07:44 AM \| #61	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealCrucifer I'm asking politely. This is the #1 biggest issue with SWTOR right now... Can we get a word on why it is taking so long for this to be implemented when it is so crucial to everything in the game... Yes youre absolutely right. The game is full of bugs and imbalances that are frustrating players to no end but the "#1 biggest issue" is a missing combat log that is already proven to be absolutely unnecessary to complete any of the currently available content. ........ /sigh

Taroen

02.23.2012 , 08:05 AM \| #62	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by corbanite Depends on how it is interpreted. Many DPS AoE because it produces more DPS and gets them higher on the meters that way.. Why bother taking out the little piddly mobs first when you can stay on boss single target and maximise your DPS. Incoming damage is not your priority.. max DPS is your priority Why bother healing the damage that comes in why not just AoE blanket heal and get to the top of the healing meters.. The meters prove you are awesome and if someone died then it is someone else who is lower on the meters fault. To combat this another game just made everything AoE in one expansion.. tank aoe's simple 3 button rotation... DPS AoE simple 3 button rotation.. and Healers AoE simple 3 button rotation.. oh that sounds like a great game. yawn More information is a GOOD thing is not a universal truth. Yes it is. Ignorance is never good. You want to go to extremes. Either no combat log at all, or they are the be-all end-all. But the truth is that any player who focuses on his own dps to the point where he ignores fight mechanics is just as bad a player as the one who is afraid to be exposed for their poor play. And any raid leader who can not recognize those two players is bad, too. Currently, we can easily see who is ignoring fight mechanics, but there is no way at all to tell who is dps'ing poorly. You have 2 tanks, 4 healers and 10 dps. If a boss enrages because your dps is too low, how do you correct that? You have no way of knowing who is underperforming, or why. Which of the 10 is it..? Why are they low..? Ignorance is NOT bliss. More information is ALWAYS a good thing.

Frostvein

02.23.2012 , 08:15 AM \| #63	Quote
IIRC, they had a combat log in Beta but had to turn it off because it wasn't working properly/lagged players to hell. I also tend to believe they knew the game was incomplete from a balance perspective and didn't want to have to deal with players asking for balance adjustments when they have about 8 million other problems to deal with.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat - "The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"

Hokonoso

02.23.2012 , 08:25 AM \| #64	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by zodden This is by far NOT the most important issue. Are you actually saying that its more important than fixing PvP? Or adding content for 50s? I think not... you cant fix pvp without combatlog, you simply cant balance anything without comatlog, if you think something else is more important than by all means be delusional.
What is democrazy? It is a government in which the ruling power is given to whoever is most skillful at directing the herd instincts of the largest masses of their most ignorant citizens. --Nom Anor

corbanite

02.23.2012 , 08:30 AM \| #65	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen Yes it is. Ignorance is never good. You want to go to extremes. Either no combat log at all, or they are the be-all end-all. But the truth is that any player who focuses on his own dps to the point where he ignores fight mechanics is just as bad a player as the one who is afraid to be exposed for their poor play. And any raid leader who can not recognize those two players is bad, too. Currently, we can easily see who is ignoring fight mechanics, but there is no way at all to tell who is dps'ing poorly. You have 2 tanks, 4 healers and 10 dps. If a boss enrages because your dps is too low, how do you correct that? You have no way of knowing who is underperforming, or why. Which of the 10 is it..? Why are they low..? Ignorance is NOT bliss. More information is ALWAYS a good thing. Yes.. like bomb making stuff.. everyone should know how to build a nuclear weapon.. God knows why some people think it's a bad idea. You should go protest.. More information is NOT always a good thing whether you like it or not.
Say no to double-dip.. NO SUB+MT http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08...e-a/#continued

Volksworgen

02.23.2012 , 08:33 AM \| #66	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by zodden LOL The combat log will be used to ruin this game like it helped do to WoW. People will be forced into specs for raiding and then measured and then excluded without cookie cutter builds. I hope they don't ever add it. Are you even reading what you type? Combat logs killed WoW? Are you *********** serious? What part of trying to find out what hit you and for how much is a game killer? There are too many jokers here posting nonsense these days.

Drewser

02.23.2012 , 08:34 AM \| #67	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Hokonoso you cant fix pvp without combatlog, you simply cant balance anything without comatlog, if you think something else is more important than by all means be delusional. The Devs have a combat log. They balance the game. Players don't need one for the purpose of "game balance".

Taroen

02.23.2012 , 08:42 AM \| #68	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by corbanite Yes.. like bomb making stuff.. everyone should know how to build a nuclear weapon.. God knows why some people think it's a bad idea. You should go protest.. More information is NOT always a good thing whether you like it or not. How incredibly absurd.

corbanite

02.23.2012 , 08:43 AM \| #69	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen How incredibly absurd. not really the point is more information is not always a good thing.. It all depends on how people use it.. Too many people are ******s.
Say no to double-dip.. NO SUB+MT http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08...e-a/#continued

Taroen

02.23.2012 , 08:43 AM \| #70	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Drewser The Devs have a combat log. They balance the game. Players don't need one for the purpose of "game balance". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!!! Oh wait... You're serious..?

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