2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

All your little analogies dont work here about calculators and pencils and whatever. Because you know what? Its a game.

The point is that these games do not ship with DPS meters. Its a gamer add on to make things easier. It was this way in EQ, it was this way in WoW and its like this now in SWTOR.

And now we are back to the orignal point you and I started debating. Players have proven that this just does not work.

Like minded or not, when a tool like this is introduced into a gaming enviroment, it effects everyone - whether I choose to use it or not.

Anything integrated into my gaming enviroment via BioWare has an affect on my gaming. The argument of group with like minded people doesn't work.

Because the people that i may have been grouping with at one point and having fun with have now decide to use a parser too, because of the pressure put on by others - and the min/maxing nazi's have pushed their agenda down the throats of the common gamer.

It is the way a society evolves within a gaming enviroment. The enviroment becomes forever changed. 6 months from now, the community, the perceptions, and the way people go about interactin with others when it comes to grouping up for content has been completly changed by 1 tool integrated into this game.

You need to study the laws of Cause and Effect me thinks.

It's extremely sad when fanboys find excuses for STANDARD missing features in this game. One of the guy here was talking about how combat log killed WoW..... I mean seriously? How stupid can one be and how far would he or she go to defend a game that is pretty much missing everything that makes a MMO an MMO. Fanboys here are in denial, but they will snap out of it once Guild Wars 2 ships with all the features that have been shown on the videos from the past weekend beta. It's EPIC. Period.

Kind of a conundrum isn't it? Fact is - they want a PeePee measuring stick they can all use to feel better about themselves, and used primarily to belittle others.

Because the people that i may have been grouping with at one point and having fun with have now decide to use a parser too, because of the pressure put on by others - and the min/maxing nazi's have pushed their agenda down the throats of the common gamer.

Thats a stupid analogy. for one I dont let my kids use calculators, they need to learn the basics without a calculator. Problem soliving in mathematics is not about calculators, son.

These people are no longer like minded players...that is hard for you to grasp?

Also, stop being a victim.

So make it really interesting...

A closer analogy would be to have them do the math by hand without knowing half of the numbers involved and having to guess at the solutions.

LOL, the analogies work fine, saying its just a gmae is what doesn't work.

Its a game...just like EVERY other game....all of them use tools to get better...all of them.

I'm actually as big of a fan as you could find. I love this game. I have three 50s and several mid-20s...

I'm calling for a combat log because that is what would be good for the game. Being blind to a game's faults doesn't really make someone a fan... I think it makes them more... well...

Blind.