2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

That is actually the question. What are they going to do with it? If you want a combat parser to better yourself and do more DPS, adjust your rotation, etc. then you don't need the information from anyone else.

If you want the information from other people then you intend to use it to judge them and force them to conform to your ideal rotation, DPS, etc. to 'be better'. I don't need you to do that for me and I don't have any reason to allow you to do it.

You are failing to grasp where your needs intrude on mine. You are proving by your responses that you WILL use the log to impose your will on other people (even admitting that you will do it in your guild) - that is your option but I don't need to feed into your mentality.

Ill play a devils advocate here for a minute.

for one I really do not miss the log. I find it refreshing that i can try any myriad of specs and not be *****ed at because my spec is 8.759% worse than the best spec.

Logs lead to parsers which lead to cookie cutter builds which leads to them nerfing the trees like WoW did so you can only spec a certain way.

logs are the path to the dark side.

Sigh just stop it will you. You perfectly understand what he`s talking about and you DO understand what meters has to say for end game raiding. If not you either havent played any other mmos endgame that requires input from every player or you just dont care. Either way... just hush pls. Meters are kinda required in this era of mmos when it comes to end game content, especially in mmos.

Why? Its been said a thousand times but ya.. its that simple. To see *** is going on in a fight and who/what does what damage/heal. Pretty simple to grasp actually. And people who goes loco on these forums saying, NO IT WILL RUIN THE GAME, is for me the people who know they suck and dont want to be exposed. Well heres a hard truth. IF you decide to play end game and RAID. You WILL have to do your gosh darn duty in RAIDS to get what you want. Easy as that. Meters is the only way in ANY MMO to see who does what and whatnot. Easy as that. THE ONLY WAY.

For me... well ... anyone voting against meters are self proclaimed noobs worrying about being called out.

Ya thats a harsh statement I know. But If you think about it, it is not. It is actually just the gosh darn annoying truth and it hurts.

People saying meters will ruin the game cause it did that to WoW.. well... yes and no. Yes in the way it ruined it for YOU. NO in the way it didnt ruin it for the rest of us.

See what I did there ?

I`ll even throw in a little PS here to defend you:

Yes meters DO make people specc certain ways for optimum performance etc. Yes it does. But then again. Why even bother playing a class half way when you can do better ?

Your answer: Cause this build fit my playstyle !

Yes it may be doing so... but even then it still handicap all your friends right ?
Yes it does... glad we agree.

But then again.. when all is said and done... who the F... would need meters in TOR anyways. You can do the end game pve content blindfolded, holding a beer while giving your lady the pleasure she wants so yeah....

So basically, you're simply afraid of the unknown.

Wow. What a worthless argument against a combat log.

"It's bad because...well.....IT'LL BE BAD!"

Again, combat logs are not damage meters, yet in your first sentence you're already talking about damage meters.

BTW I don't have a guild, don't run raids, and wouldn't use any meters against you. And you accuse me of assumptions?

It wasn't an assumption - it was using what you said. If you don't intend to do it then kindly refrain from saying you will.

Re-read your own messages if you are still lost.

No where in any of my posts do I mention a guild.

That was an assumption. By you. Good game, sir. Maybe read the posts?

There's that word again.

So basically, you're simply afraid of the unknown.

Wow. What a worthless argument against a combat log.

"It's bad because...well.....IT'LL BE BAD!"

Again, combat logs are not damage meters, yet in your first paragraph you're already talking about damage meters.

BTW I don't have a guild, don't run raids, and wouldn't use any meters against you. And you accuse me of assumptions?

Yes - I know how they work in other games and use them.

They are not needed here in the game that we have and will only serve to form an even more annoying bunch of players than we are already seeing in this thread.

I will not 'hush' because you don't agree with me but you can keep asking.

For me... well ... anyone voting against meters are self proclaimed noobs worrying about being called out.

Ya thats a harsh statement I know. But If you think about it, it is not. It is actually just the gosh darn annoying truth and it hurts.