2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

I play the game and I win the encounters I'm attempting. Urgo, I don't suck.

I'm not the one that is lost here.

Atm we dont need combat logs or meters, that i agree on. But there are many of us that wants harder fights and when the bosses wont drop like flies, you have to start seek reasons and replacing people. If you are fine with joke bosses and dont want your group to get better, its your choice of play and there is lots of like minded people for you to raid with, that doesnt matter about challenging bosses or about getting better.

U dont have any way to measure if you suck or not compared to your raid members. They might do 3 times more dps than you and in that light you would suck. But now we just have to take your word about your skill level that you dont even know yourself.

Are you accomplishing what you set out to accomplish? If yes, then you are and you don't need a combat parser. You want one, but you don't need one.

And - at the end of the day - it matters why? We win.

Are you accomplishing what you set out to accomplish? If yes, then you are and you don't need a combat parser. You want one, but you don't need one.

Actually the other day we were not accomplishing what we were trying to accomplish and the issue was hitting enrage timer on HM Karagga. Me and the raid leader trying to figure why we are hitting enrage timer after not doing so last week and all we can do is say "try harder" in vent. Yeah we had a few different people in the operation, but are they actually do better or worse then everyone else? Who knows...

That is true. I dont know where i stand dps wise compared to other players. If im not worthy or skilled enough to raid with my group, ill gladly seek players of my own skilllevel. Atm i THINK im good, and thats only analyze anyone can make about emself or others, we are lucky that the content is easiest we wever seen in MMOs.

IF they start tailoring the game away from the current casual setting into something it isn't designed to be (hard core raiding) then I can see where you need to know the split-second timing of the encounter and your rotation.

In the current game they would only cause people (like many in this thread) to make judgements on other players - not based on whether they are having fun or accomplishing the goal - but based on hitting some 'perfect' DPS rotation.

I am have already chosen to play a game like that and I use a combat parser over there. This isn't that game.

You're so lost.

The current level of difficulty in this game is a joke. Nightmare modes don't come close to living up to their name, they're barely harder than LFR in WoW.

People that want combat logs want them so that they can not only evaluate themselves and their raid team members but also so that some actually challenging boss fights can be developed.

As it stands now the devs can't design anything even remotely challenging because players don't have the tools necessary to evaluate them. The way the game is now this might as well be space invaders with updated graphics.

Combat logs/meters/addons are all part of the evolution of this genre. They've been implemented because players wanted them. Their existence allows for faster paced, more fluid and more intricate boss design. If you want to play a game where you press a few buttons, dodge a few attacks and a boss drops that's fine, that's what normal and even "hard" modes should be for but there's a large group of players that aren't satisfied by that. There's a large group of players that know how gratifying a kill on a boss you've worked on for weeks can be and they were hoping SWTOR would provide them with that feeling, it hasn't to this point and it's not going to if the content remains so faceroll easy.