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Emeda
02.24.2012 , 01:02 AM | #621
Quote: Originally Posted by Juanxlink View Post
See that would not work, they want to deny us from such a tool, throwing tantrums and useing the "LFG tool will kill the community" card, not being able to back it up with some facts.

Just glad that BW has got to its senses, at least with this, now lets see how long we have to wait...
wait for what all the QQ posts that someone ninja'ed your loot and that they need to put in a better system>

wait for all the QQ posts about how you were kicked for no reason and the elitists using the LFG tool are abusing it

wait for the QQ posts about how you still ahve to wait 20-40 min on a tank or healer and you dont have that much time

wait for the QQ posts about how someone in your group is just autofollowing someone and not doing anything.

wait for the QQ posts that the flashpoints are too long and you dont have an hour to finish them so they should be shortened.

is that what you are waiting on?
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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The_Eyesight
02.24.2012 , 01:05 AM | #622
Quote: Originally Posted by Citywok View Post
If any of you have been around launches of other MMOs (which I doubt many people here have), you come to realize that they aren't going to be perfect at launch. An MMO is a living, breathing game that evolves over time. Every single feature you want or have seen in other games will often be added in at a later date once they fix the most pressing post-launch issues. Let's look at the launch of WOW.

World of Warcraft
WOW has had SEVEN years to add content. SWTOR has had two months. Can you imagine how much better this game will be even a year from now? But I digress.
Does anyone remember the awful lag issues WOW had at launch? I sure as hell do. Many servers were crashing for a long period of time over and over. Lag, loot lag, falling through the world, etc. Queue times were often an hour or more. The game was often unplayable at times until WOW had time to fix hardware issues. SWTOR has actually done better than WOW in this regard. WOW actually had to give some people free days because the lag was so bad and the servers were so unstable.
I think WOW had one or two raids? There weren't any battlesgrounds. There weren't a lot of things.

(blah blah blah WOW was released in 2004 SWTOR should have all the features it does blah blah blah ) No, it shouldn't SWTOR is a unique game that will add it's own content.

I personally love this game. I sincerely enjoy playing it. Those who don't are more likely to be vocal about it on the forums. I never see any of this "I hate SWTOR" chat in game.
Launch is a difficult time for ANY MMO, and SWTOR has actually done better than just about any MMO I've seen before.

This game isn't WOW and it never will be. Don't expect it to have all the features you love from WOW 2 MONTHS after launch. Give this game time to work out the few bugs there are and add a bit of content over the upcoming months and this will be the best MMO there is. Bottom line, MMOs take time to develop and add content and this is one of the smoothest MMO launches I've been around.
Finally, a fellow WoW launch player. Yeah everyone else who "played" at launch tries to tell me there weren't hour long ques and such..

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kristoffbrujah
02.24.2012 , 01:05 AM | #623
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
wait for what all the QQ posts that someone ninja'ed your loot and that they need to put in a better system>

wait for all the QQ posts about how you were kicked for no reason and the elitists using the LFG tool are abusing it

wait for the QQ posts about how you still ahve to wait 20-40 min on a tank or healer and you dont have that much time

wait for the QQ posts about how someone in your group is just autofollowing someone and not doing anything.

wait for the QQ posts that the flashpoints are too long and you dont have an hour to finish them so they should be shortened.

is that what you are waiting on?
Most of this stuff can happen without that tool. I've had people take loot that was better than mine, for my class, for their companions. I've waited and given up on runs due to lack of tank/healer. This isn't stuff that can't be QQ'd about already.

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Akirator
02.24.2012 , 01:06 AM | #624
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
wait for what all the QQ posts that someone ninja'ed your loot and that they need to put in a better system>

wait for all the QQ posts about how you were kicked for no reason and the elitists using the LFG tool are abusing it

wait for the QQ posts about how you still ahve to wait 20-40 min on a tank or healer and you dont have that much time

wait for the QQ posts about how someone in your group is just autofollowing someone and not doing anything.

wait for the QQ posts that the flashpoints are too long and you dont have an hour to finish them so they should be shortened.

is that what you are waiting on?
I'm not entirely sure what side the sarcasm is supposed to fall on here, but either way...lol
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NKieffer
02.24.2012 , 01:11 AM | #625
Quote: Originally Posted by Akirator View Post
And I agree, the people who spout the "lfg kills communities" are kinda silly. My only point is we have an adequate system, not perfect of course, if people would use it, so BW shouldn't have this as a top priority UNLESS they make it x-server. Some servers are almost dead and would greatly benefit from a x-server lfg tool.

But if BW plans to make a server only lfg tool, I definitely think the time could be better spent on stuff that actually is essential.
Sad thing is, there is a tool, already in the game, that does the same thing for warzones. What is the drawback for having it work with flashpoints? I am meeting and playing with a lot of the same people in warzones. In turn we have done a few operations and flashpoints together. If anything a flashpoint queue would be a community builder. Why was it not implemented at launch if a warzone queue was implemented?

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Emeda
02.24.2012 , 01:11 AM | #626
Quote: Originally Posted by kristoffbrujah View Post
Most of this stuff can happen without that tool. I've had people take loot that was better than mine, for my class, for their companions. I've waited and given up on runs due to lack of tank/healer. This isn't stuff that can't be QQ'd about already.
Yes it can happen without a LFG tool but then you also will know that person and never have to run with him again. If he afks you can kick him etc

Dont use the ignore feature because if you did that for everyone you wanted to once LFG is out you would have a full ignore list in less than a week.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Nazguapo
02.24.2012 , 01:12 AM | #627
It's quite simple really, if you want more content, leave and come back in a year or two. No one's forcing you to stay. I'm staying and paying my $15 a month because I'm excited to A. See this game grow over time, and B. Be a part of that growth process. If you didn't want bugs, you shouldn't have bought the game at launch, that's plain common sense.

Unfortunately, I know that a large number of people went out and bought Windows Vista on it's first day, expecting it to be a perfect improvement upon Windows XP. "Common" Sense is poorly named if you ask me.

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Dreeb
02.24.2012 , 01:15 AM | #628
I wish ppl would stop comparing mmo's that are already out for several off years with mmo's that are just releashed ...
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Akirator
02.24.2012 , 01:16 AM | #629
Quote: Originally Posted by NKieffer View Post
Sad thing is, there is a tool, already in the game, that does the same thing for warzones. What is the drawback for having it work with flashpoints? I am meeting and playing with a lot of the same people in warzones. In turn we have done a few operations and flashpoints together. If anything a flashpoint queue would be a community builder. Why was it not implemented at launch if a warzone queue was implemented?
For the life of me I dont know why they did one but not the other, and if they had launched with it that would have been great.

The problem is that it is NOT essential, and at this point in time, the game was released, there is alot of stuff broken and alot of features that are not in the game in any way shape or form.

Those things should absolutely have a higher priority than redoing something thats not broken, just not working like people wish it would.
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NKieffer
02.24.2012 , 01:18 AM | #630
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
Yes it can happen without a LFG tool but then you also will know that person and never have to run with him again. If he afks you can kick him etc

Dont use the ignore feature because if you did that for everyone you wanted to once LFG is out you would have a full ignore list in less than a week.
Why does it got to be a guy?

On a serious note. That's the gamble you take. If you see the same person show up in a flashpoint, just leave. Not like they have a system in place that penalizes you or anything for leaving a warzone or flashpoint early.