This game is TWO MONTHS old.

Its funny watching all the excuses being made for TOR because its 2 months old. What's even funnier will be the excuses made by the forum faithful over the spring and summer as we have three AAA MMOs launching with more content, less bugs and functional social elements. I better tag this thread as goal posts will be moved again without a doubt.

Its funny watching all the excuses being made for TOR because its 2 months old. What's even funnier will be the excuses made by the forum faithful over the spring and summer as we have three AAA MMOs launching with more content, less bugs and functional social elements. I better tag this thread as goal posts will be moved again without a doubt.

I don't know how many times one has to reiterate the same thing.

The argument about SWTOR coming out in 2011 and WoW coming out in 2004 so SWTOR should have all those features blah blah blah is garbage. Completely garbage.

You need to actually stop and think about development for a minute.


When they were planning out SWTOR, I'd say it was either during Vanilla WoW, or Burning Crusade at the latest.

They had a bucket list of things to implement, and began work on it.

Development for this time of game takes YEARS TO DO.

So yes, while they were developing this game WoW was coming out with new and interesting features, as were other MMOS. That's great, but if they stopped and kept adding every new thing in to this game during that time, it would never come out. It would constantly add development time, and the game would end up like duke nukem forever.


Instead, they did what they set out to do with intentions of adding features post launch. THIS IS HOW MMOS WORK.


Yes, WoW came out in 2004, and SWTOR did learn a lot from that believe it or not, but you CAN'T realistically add in every feature WoW has added WHILE YOUR GAME IS IN DEVELOPMENT and expect it to fit budget or come out on time.

Anyone who uses that dull lifeless argument that oh well WoW came out in 2004 so SWTOR SHOULD HAVE ALL THOSE FEATURES BECAUSE ITS 2012!!! obviously doesn't have any idea of how the real world works, nor have they ever held a job that actually does anything of use, besides feeding fat people, or washing their cars or whatever.


Seriously, drop that argument, it only makes you look ignorant and stupid.

Show me links please for the current stats?

SWTOR doesnt even have some features of 2004/2005 WoW.

And I agree, development of actual content takes years, but development of UI, GTN and other features similar to this? not by a long shot. They even took out perfectly fine stuff from beta and I have no doubt they will push it later and call it "new features."

Of course the problem with content is, it is way too easy to get through the operations and HM flashpoints in a few weeks, be completely geared in pvp and pve gear and have nothing left to do but to level alts.

Sure, they promised us quick content patches... I heard that before. Even this "new" rakghoul storyline, they admitted they were working on it for about a year, how long apart will be patches past 1.2 is the real question, because I doubt they can give us new FP every two months and OP every 4 months

Sure, I'll do better and add some more info:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1217723p1.html

Of which you will notice states: That's over twice the number of copies sold of World of Warcraft close to its launch in 2004, though there's been a lot of growth in the MMO space since those days.

Please show me what MMOs have come out recently that have had as smooth a launch as SWTOR. I'm going to laugh when these "AAA MMOs" disappoint you because launch isn't as perfect as you expect it to be. lol GuildWars or Tera or whatever games you are talking about will pale in comparison to SWTOR and the numbers will show it.

Sorry but AAA MMOs don't use horrible game engines like the Hero engine.

It's like going to the store to buy steaks and then you see chuck steak's price of $1.99 and go yea that will do just fine. Except chuck steak is terrible. Just like this hero engine.

As for bugs, you're very wrong. I don't think you've played many MMOs lol because you sound like you don't know what you're talking about. WOW had entire servers down and the lag was completely attrocious. This game doesn't have NEARLY as many bugs as any other MMO I've played at launch before. If you expect this game to be the same a year from now you've just proved to me you don't know what you're talking about.